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Post by skylark on Oct 9, 2019 6:22:15 GMT
I am on expensive medication, as is Mrs A. We are being told that because of Brexshit we will lose all our support from the French government and guess what? We didn't even get to vote! We are basically being handed a death certificate. I saw Spanish expats who were relieved to discover that Spain has passed a law so that their agreement with the NHS will continue, apparently an arrangement that has existed since before we joined the EU. Our government has yet to ratify the agreement in reverse for EU expats living in the UK My understanding is that under the rules, this means that we the U.K. taxpayer picks up the bill for our citizens’ treatment in Spain! I look forward to being told this is wrong but this is the story I found. www.imtj.com/articles/agreement-reached-reciprocal-healthcare-british-and-eu-retirees/£650 million, mostly paid to retirees who contribute nothing to the UK economy. |
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Post by themanwhoknewnothing on Oct 9, 2019 7:02:22 GMT
Surely these people have fully paid contributions to receive these benefits.
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Post by honeybear on Oct 9, 2019 7:05:17 GMT
If these people still lived in the UK , they would be further straining the NHS.
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Post by jimmy20 on Oct 9, 2019 7:51:13 GMT
It is all very well to have an agreement but in reality the cash strapped Spanish are fed up waiting for the NHS to re-imburse them and are demanding cash payments on the spot
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Post by skylark on Oct 9, 2019 11:56:06 GMT
From what I have been told, mostly the NHS can’t be bothered to re-charge EU countries for treating their citizens!
i take the point about how we would be treating retirees if they returned here, but they would also be boosting our economy to a small extent by spending their pensions here instead of in Spain. And with the pound so low it might amount to a saving for the NHS.
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Post by jimmy20 on Oct 9, 2019 12:59:26 GMT
These expats are not exactly poverty stricken either A few years back we travelled to Alicante with a passenger on the flight with a clearly injured foot and ankle. Thinking she had injured herself whilst in the UK we asked what had happened, and she told us that she was an expat and had flown to the UK for a relatives wedding but was returning to Spain for pre-arranged surgery on her foot Naively we asked why she didn't use the NHS in the UK to be told that she would use the NHS in Spain with much better treatment and a private room Who are the mugs here? |
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Post by ARENA on Oct 9, 2019 13:58:10 GMT
These expats are not exactly poverty stricken either ] As an ex-pat I can tell you that's not true. |
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Post by althea on Oct 9, 2019 14:51:24 GMT
I think Boris is starting to get that haunted look that Theresa May had.
I'm not surprised,surrounded by all those whingey, whiners and dogs in the mangers in Parliament.
Oops,I missed a page of replies (as I often do.)
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Post by althea on Oct 9, 2019 14:56:29 GMT
Do you pay medical insurance in France,A. My cousin, who has lived in Berlin for 50 years, pays medical insurance monthly,as the Germans do and receives wonderful treatment when she needs it.
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Post by jimmy20 on Oct 9, 2019 15:03:09 GMT
Do you pay medical insurance in France,A. My cousin, who has lived in Berlin for 50 years, pays medical insurance monthly,as the Germans do and receives wonderful treatment when she needs it. In Belgium everybody has medical insurance and receive excellent medical treatment. Need a doctor, you will have a choice of who you want at your door in minutes Perhaps we would have been better off to adopt a similar system rather than the NHS
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Post by skylark on Oct 9, 2019 15:33:11 GMT
These expats are not exactly poverty stricken either A few years back we travelled to Alicante with a passenger on the flight with a clearly injured foot and ankle. Thinking she had injured herself whilst in the UK we asked what had happened, and she told us that she was an expat and had flown to the UK for a relatives wedding but was returning to Spain for pre-arranged surgery on her foot Naively we asked why she didn't use the NHS in the UK to be told that she would use the NHS in Spain with much better treatment and a private room Who are the mugs here? On holiday in the Canaries l met a woman with her leg in plaster who was waiting for a repatriation flight home, having fallen on volcanic rock. . She had travel insurance, but didn’t get a private room in hospital. I doubt if it was better treatment than she would have had in the U.K., because the NHS is brilliant for accidents, heart problems and cancer. Possibly not so good for chronic complaints though. |
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Post by aubrey on Oct 9, 2019 15:40:04 GMT
These expats are not exactly poverty stricken either A few years back we travelled to Alicante with a passenger on the flight with a clearly injured foot and ankle. Thinking she had injured herself whilst in the UK we asked what had happened, and she told us that she was an expat and had flown to the UK for a relatives wedding but was returning to Spain for pre-arranged surgery on her foot Naively we asked why she didn't use the NHS in the UK to be told that she would use the NHS in Spain with much better treatment and a private room Who are the mugs here? On holiday in the Canaries l met a woman with her leg in plaster who was waiting for a repatriation flight home, having fallen on volcanic rock. . She had travel insurance, but didn’t get a private room in hospital. I doubt if it was better treatment than she would have had in the U.K., because the NHS is brilliant for accidents, heart problems and cancer. Possibly not so good for chronic complaints though.
They've been all right for me.
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Post by skylark on Oct 9, 2019 16:53:21 GMT
EMy OH, and to a lesser extent me too, have been let down by the NHS to the extent that I am persuading him to pay for his spinal op, because he has had too many promises never fulfilled. He eventually discovered that by complaining he moved forward faster....but priorities should not be based on who shouts the loudest. The meek inherit the tail end of a long queue!
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Aubrey, I do get the impression that London does not have the shortage of doctors suffered by many hospitals elsewhere. The glaucoma consultant left and went private three years ago and has only just been replaced. When he left his deputy shit off to Moorfields, and who can blame him? The big teaching hospitals have much more to offer than ours ever can.
Anyway, this is rather off the topic. Boris; what can I say? He certainly keeps us guessing but with luck will be booted out before he can wreck the country any more
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Post by jimmy20 on Oct 9, 2019 17:09:26 GMT
On holiday in the Canaries l met a woman with her leg in plaster who was waiting for a repatriation flight home, having fallen on volcanic rock. . She had travel insurance, but didn’t get a private room in hospital. I doubt if it was better treatment than she would have had in the U.K., because the NHS is brilliant for accidents, heart problems and cancer. Possibly not so good for chronic complaints though.
They've been all right for me.
I don't think the Canaries are covered by any EU/NHS agreement I agree that in the UK there is an almost immediate attention to any cancer diagnosis but follow up is hopeless. I have only just had my regular scan check up that was due in May
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Post by skylark on Oct 9, 2019 17:50:00 GMT
You may be right about the Canaries; although part of Spain they do seem to work under different rules! The woman with a broken leg shared a hospital room with just one other, an elderly local resident. I am told these double rooms are common also in France but most people I have spoken to hate it, saying that if they can’t have a single room they would prefer a multi-bed bay. I know I would!
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