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Post by aubrey on Sept 9, 2019 7:45:47 GMT
They said that not joining the Euro would be a catastrophe, we didn't and it wasn't They said that voting Leave in the referendum would be ruinous, we did and it isn't. In fact the economy is booming, better than Germany They now say that No Deal would be terrible for the UK Why should we believe them True that the pound is down in value but that is because of the continuing uncertainty The Europeans will still want to buy our goods, as we will still want to buy theirs. True the car industry is shedding jobs but that is happening because of worldwide lack of demand, and the move to more environmentally friendly ones
One reason why we say no deal would be disastrous is because Gove will not publish even a watered down version of the Govt's contingency plans for fear of alarming the public. It might all turn out to be all right, but "Might" is a hell of a risk, and there is no Govt in recent or even not recent times that has taken such a big risk with the lives and well-being and stability of the country's population without having been forced into it by outside events: they have gone into this deliberately and the only people who can gain from it are the extremely wealthy and the far right - who are the ones who have been paying for it.
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Post by aubrey on Sept 9, 2019 7:48:37 GMT
This is from the Financial Times (hardly a socialist paper):
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Post by clioseward on Sept 9, 2019 8:25:48 GMT
They are lying to the British public. Since when has it been ok to lie in Parliament.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 9:19:54 GMT
This is from the Financial Times (hardly a socialist paper):
Why should there be delays at the ports, the same or similar goods will continue to flow both ways as they do now (perhaps fewer people will travel for a while). Quite heavy border controls already exist, and in some cases is already very tight using eye and fingerprint recognition I don't buy these warnings, they are all put forward to enhance agendas. For instance they are already stockpiling medications, not to be able to maintain supplies but to increase prices If a deal is the way forward why didn't Corbyn and Co vote for Mrs May's deal? I tell you why, because they are playing political games in a vain hope of achieving power. They are the liars and hypocrites in all of this The electorate are not daft, the opinion polls show that Johnson's stock is higher than ever and increasing by the day which is of course why Labour despite screaming for an election for two years now don't want one
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 9:25:59 GMT
They said that not joining the Euro would be a catastrophe, we didn't and it wasn't They said that voting Leave in the referendum would be ruinous, we did and it isn't. In fact the economy is booming, better than Germany They now say that No Deal would be terrible for the UK Why should we believe them True that the pound is down in value but that is because of the continuing uncertainty The Europeans will still want to buy our goods, as we will still want to buy theirs. True the car industry is shedding jobs but that is happening because of worldwide lack of demand, and the move to more environmentally friendly ones
One reason why we say no deal would be disastrous is because Gove will not publish even a watered down version of the Govt's contingency plans for fear of alarming the public. It might all turn out to be all right, but "Might" is a hell of a risk, and there is no Govt in recent or even not recent times that has taken such a big risk with the lives and well-being and stability of the country's population without having been forced into it by outside events: they have gone into this deliberately and the only people who can gain from it are the extremely wealthy and the far right - who are the ones who have been paying for it.
Who is the "we" you refer to? Governments of all hues regularly take risks with our well being and stability, if the economic situation demands it You do realise that wealth creators make jobs and benefits for our society, profit is not a dirty word
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Post by starlilolill on Sept 9, 2019 9:36:54 GMT
Burying your head in the sand Jimmy. The warnings are out there and with psycopath Cummings running the show we should all be concerned.
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Post by ARENA on Sept 9, 2019 14:36:11 GMT
This part of the board is meant for 'midly' heated discussion.
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Post by rondetto on Sept 9, 2019 16:27:42 GMT
More people than I could mention here have been banned from message boards through arguments about politics. That's why there are several different parties with their own manifestos. Everyone sees things differently. Certainly have your say here, but never try and convert someone from their beliefs and opinions. I will never argue politics and will never tell anyone how I vote, that's between me and my conscience.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 16:57:58 GMT
More people than I could mention here have been banned from message boards through arguments about politics. That's why there are several different parties with their own manifestos. Everyone sees things differently. Certainly have your say here, but never try and convert someone from their beliefs and opinions. I will never argue politics and will never tell anyone how I vote, that's between me and my conscience. That's true Ron but posters beliefs and opinions are one thing, making slanderous and defamatory comments about individuals is another. Is it any wonder that social media platforms come under such scrutiny and criticism
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 17:10:22 GMT
They said that not joining the Euro would be a catastrophe, we didn't and it wasn't They said that voting Leave in the referendum would be ruinous, we did and it isn't. In fact the economy is booming, better than Germany They now say that No Deal would be terrible for the UK Why should we believe them True that the pound is down in value but that is because of the continuing uncertainty The Europeans will still want to buy our goods, as we will still want to buy theirs. True the car industry is shedding jobs but that is happening because of worldwide lack of demand, and the move to more environmentally friendly ones
One reason why we say no deal would be disastrous is because Gove will not publish even a watered down version of the Govt's contingency plans for fear of alarming the public. It might all turn out to be all right, but "Might" is a hell of a risk, and there is no Govt in recent or even not recent times that has taken such a big risk with the lives and well-being and stability of the country's population without having been forced into it by outside events: they have gone into this deliberately and the only people who can gain from it are the extremely wealthy and the far right - who are the ones who have been paying for it.
Here you are Aub
"Emergency services are accused of 'scaremongering' over advice to carry 'grab bags' containing first aid kit, water and phone charger - sparking jokes UK faces 'nuclear' apocalypse"
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7443909/Police-forces-advise-people-carry-emergency-grab-bags-containing-aid-kit.html
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Post by aubrey on Sept 9, 2019 17:33:36 GMT
One reason why we say no deal would be disastrous is because Gove will not publish even a watered down version of the Govt's contingency plans for fear of alarming the public. It might all turn out to be all right, but "Might" is a hell of a risk, and there is no Govt in recent or even not recent times that has taken such a big risk with the lives and well-being and stability of the country's population without having been forced into it by outside events: they have gone into this deliberately and the only people who can gain from it are the extremely wealthy and the far right - who are the ones who have been paying for it.
Here you are Aub
"Emergency services are accused of 'scaremongering' over advice to carry 'grab bags' containing first aid kit, water and phone charger - sparking jokes UK faces 'nuclear' apocalypse"
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7443909/Police-forces-advise-people-carry-emergency-grab-bags-containing-aid-kit.html
That's not the Govt's contingency plans; and it doesn't seem to have anything to do with brexit. According to that piece they do the same thing every year.
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Post by althea on Sept 10, 2019 17:57:22 GMT
Jimmy,I can't Private Message you as you have deleted your account. I am hoping you may look in here. The politics thread is for everyone to air their views and it is wrong for anyone to pour scorn on someone else's views. This thread should never become personal and it did. I know I'm not just speaking for myself,when I say we want you to come back. Think it over,jimmy,and come back please,you are missed. I am of a similar mind to you when it comes to Brexit,I want out of the EU. All of the doomsayers may find themselves pleasantly surprised after we leave the EU. I remember a time when Britain thrived,standing on it's own two feet. I can understand how you feel about being personally attacked,but please don't let it spoil your forum experience.
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Post by jimmy20 on Sept 12, 2019 13:21:03 GMT
Thanks for the kind words, didn't think I would be missed But as they say, a bad penny keeps turning up so here I am
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Post by starlilolill on Sept 12, 2019 13:26:10 GMT
When I asked if anyone was stockpiling nobody commented. It was a serious point and it would seem it was justifiable according to the now published document. Paper products, frozen fruit and veg, tinned food are but a few suggestions. I don't believe this is scaremongering I do believe it is common sense. If, and it is a big if it would seem, all goes smoothly then all the goods that have been stockpiled won't go to waste. Worth considering? I think so!
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Post by aubrey on Sept 12, 2019 13:30:04 GMT
Thanks for the kind words, didn't think I would be missed But as they say, a bad penny keeps turning up so here I am
You will be; you are.
And I'm missing your dogs as well.
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