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Post by honeybear on Sept 6, 2019 8:13:53 GMT
Will he resign?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2019 13:24:01 GMT
He's in Scotland today, smugly going around without a care in the world. Doesn't look as if has any intention of resigning, either he has a cunning plan or he is stupid and I cannot believe the latter I don't like the sight of the rag bag coalition of opposition parties salivating at the chance to tie the government down and possibly resigning. Sod what the people want, lets pursue political games. They should be careful what they wish for
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Post by aubrey on Sept 6, 2019 16:35:51 GMT
He's in Scotland today, smugly going around without a care in the world. Doesn't look as if has any intention of resigning, either he has a cunning plan or he is stupid and I cannot believe the latter I don't like the sight of the rag bag coalition of opposition parties salivating at the chance to tie the government down and possibly resigning. Sod what the people want, lets pursue political games. They should be careful what they wish for
They are trying to stop a no-deal brexit, which no one wants, except a few millionaires and oligarchs and people who don't understand (wilfully or otherwise) what it would mean. That's not games. For me this has been the best week in politics since it must be 1997.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2019 17:14:49 GMT
He's in Scotland today, smugly going around without a care in the world. Doesn't look as if has any intention of resigning, either he has a cunning plan or he is stupid and I cannot believe the latter I don't like the sight of the rag bag coalition of opposition parties salivating at the chance to tie the government down and possibly resigning. Sod what the people want, lets pursue political games. They should be careful what they wish for
They are trying to stop a no-deal brexit, which no one wants, except a few millionaires and oligarchs and people who don't understand (wilfully or otherwise) what it would mean. That's not games. For me this has been the best week in politics since it must be 1997.
I think people are totally fed up with the inactivity over Brexit, and the objections to "No Deal" are just a side show from those who seek power regardless. One Corbyn for example No deal is a hand to play in negotiations, and if the EU will not negotiate as they are indicating then so be it. Otherwise this will drag on ad nauseum Add to that the denial for the government of the day to call a general election is a pathway to the inability to govern
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Post by aubrey on Sept 6, 2019 17:20:56 GMT
They are trying to stop a no-deal brexit, which no one wants, except a few millionaires and oligarchs and people who don't understand (wilfully or otherwise) what it would mean. That's not games. For me this has been the best week in politics since it must be 1997.
I think people are totally fed up with the inactivity over Brexit, and the objections to "No Deal" are just a side show from those who seek power regardless. One Corbyn for example No deal is a hand to play in negotiations, and if the EU will not negotiate as they are indicating then so be it. Otherwise this will drag on ad nauseum Add to that the denial for the government of the day to call a general election is a pathway to the inability to govern
I'd rather it drag on like this than there to be no deal; hanging about at the top of the cliff is infinitely better than jumping off.
But look at the people who really want no deal if you don't believe me: all those fascist ex-football hooligans who hang about Yaxley-Lennon, Farage, Rees Mogg, Putin, all those Britain First UKIP BP types. They all want chaos, because they will be able to make political or financial profit from it. Even supposedly rational no dealers do not feel able to say that no deaths will be caused by it.
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Post by aubrey on Sept 6, 2019 17:26:49 GMT
Anyway, this is more fun: a 1976 novel by Norman Spinrad featuring a character called Boris Johnson:
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2019 20:19:54 GMT
I think people are totally fed up with the inactivity over Brexit, and the objections to "No Deal" are just a side show from those who seek power regardless. One Corbyn for example No deal is a hand to play in negotiations, and if the EU will not negotiate as they are indicating then so be it. Otherwise this will drag on ad nauseum Add to that the denial for the government of the day to call a general election is a pathway to the inability to govern
I'd rather it drag on like this than there to be no deal; hanging about at the top of the cliff is infinitely better than jumping off.
But look at the people who really want no deal if you don't believe me: all those fascist ex-football hooligans who hang about Yaxley-Lennon, Farage, Rees Mogg, Putin, all those Britain First UKIP BP types. They all want chaos, because they will be able to make political or financial profit from it. Even supposedly rational no dealers do not feel able to say that no deaths will be caused by it.
There couldn't be more chaos than there is at the moment I do not believe that No Deal would result in the gloom and doom they forecast. Remainers forecast dire things if the Country voted to eave, instead the economy is booming - better than Germany. Brexiters forecast horrible things if we stay in I would prefer to leave under whatever terms, if it doesn't work out then sort it, At least the present impasse, divisions, and uncertainty would be over And I write as a committed European who's OH is a European national
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2019 9:33:46 GMT
"Yesterday, all my troubles seemed so far away"
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Post by starlilolill on Sept 7, 2019 15:00:44 GMT
A 'No Deal' Brexit would be a total disaster - jobs lost and that's just for starters. The people who would suffer the most are the most vulnerable in our society.
Those who believe that Boris' no deal is what the country wants/needs is truly naive. Ask yourself who will benefit and when you answer that it might be a bit clearer.
The EU is bringing in a law in the new year with regards to off shore accounts, cracking down on this is a huge step forward - who doesn't want that? The answer is all those who are raking in the money from said off shore accounts!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2019 12:40:38 GMT
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Post by starlilolill on Sept 8, 2019 14:42:40 GMT
If that is what you wish for Jimmy then heaven help us all.
Have you started stock piling essentials - if not I would get cracking ASAP!
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Post by althea on Sept 8, 2019 15:11:05 GMT
Mark Carney states that a no-deal Brexit will not be anywhere as bad as is being predicted.
We have been discussing Brexit for nearly three years,and I,for one,am heartily sick of it.
The MPs in parliament are derelict in their duty to bring Brexit about.
We all know that is because they disagree with the referendum result.
This country is a democracy and it's parliament's job to serve the will of the people.
I can remember this country before the Common Market and the EU.We stood on our own two feet and can do so again. I am sick of the doom and gloom merchants frightening people about post no-deal Brexit.
European businesses will still want to trade with us and it will take some time to sort good deals out,but it can be done.
If we walk away without going on our knees back to Europe and begging for a better deal (which they have insisted they won't give us),The EU will crumble within 12 months. There are too many poor countries in the EU and it's a burden Germany can not carry on it's own.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2019 16:00:22 GMT
They said that not joining the Euro would be a catastrophe, we didn't and it wasn't They said that voting Leave in the referendum would be ruinous, we did and it isn't. In fact the economy is booming, better than Germany They now say that No Deal would be terrible for the UK Why should we believe them True that the pound is down in value but that is because of the continuing uncertainty The Europeans will still want to buy our goods, as we will still want to buy theirs. True the car industry is shedding jobs but that is happening because of worldwide lack of demand, and the move to more environmentally friendly ones |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2019 16:10:53 GMT
"EU chief Guy Verhofstadt calls a Brexit delay 'unacceptable' and suggests an election SHOULD be called as France threatens to veto an extension on 31 October despite Remainer MPs' new law"
www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
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Post by aubrey on Sept 9, 2019 7:38:46 GMT
"EU chief Guy Verhofstadt calls a Brexit delay 'unacceptable' and suggests an election SHOULD be called as France threatens to veto an extension on 31 October despite Remainer MPs' new law"
www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
That's Corbyn and his rag bag coalition stuffed
Not remainers; just those who want to stop no deal.
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