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Post by aubrey on Aug 24, 2016 19:04:26 GMT
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Post by aubrey on Aug 24, 2016 19:05:56 GMT
Oh, soddit:  I expect they'll enjoy telling their grandchildren about this day's work. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2016 19:16:05 GMT
Oh, soddit: I expect they'll enjoy telling their grandchildren about this day's work. It is the law The French are understandably nervous following the recent terrorist attacks If a woman stripped off on a Saudi beach for example I expect she would be dealt with
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Post by aubrey on Aug 24, 2016 19:41:12 GMT
It's a stupid, nasty, discriminatory law.
We can agree that Saudi Arabia is a repressive country; but it's sad that a country like France is intent on doing the same kind of thing. It's not as if she could hide anything under there that I couldn't hide under a shirt and jacket (which is how I would be dressed on a French beach).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2016 9:00:15 GMT
It's a stupid, nasty, discriminatory law. We can agree that Saudi Arabia is a repressive country; but it's sad that a country like France is intent on doing the same kind of thing. It's not as if she could hide anything under there that I couldn't hide under a shirt and jacket (which is how I would be dressed on a French beach). Most people go to the beach and expose as much flesh as they choose She might not be able to hide anything under her clothes, but who knows, it's the significance and implications from her actions
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2016 9:36:50 GMT
Looks a bit staged to me. If she had a problem and objected to taking some of her gear off when confronted by the police why not just leave the beach?
That said I think some French councils have made a big mistake with this one. It looks very much like retaliation for some of the things that have gone on in recent years.
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Post by anybody on Aug 25, 2016 9:51:05 GMT
Looks a bit staged to me. If she had a problem and objected to taking some of her gear off when confronted by the police why not just leave the beach? That said I think some French councils have made a big mistake with this one. It looks very much like retaliation for some of the things that have gone on in recent years. It's pandering to racists and MUST be stamped out. Save |
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Post by ARENA on Aug 25, 2016 10:46:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2016 15:18:44 GMT
I have a stoma and I cannot imagine flaunting it like this woman |
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Post by aubrey on Aug 25, 2016 15:57:59 GMT
Looks a bit staged to me. If she had a problem and objected to taking some of her gear off when confronted by the police why not just leave the beach? That said I think some French councils have made a big mistake with this one. It looks very much like retaliation for some of the things that have gone on in recent years. Well, it was staged, by the police. Why should she leave, though? And it's not body covering in itself they're objecting to, it's that particular form of body covering. Yes, a big mistake: you don't say your culture is better, more humane, than another culture by doing this kind of thing. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2016 16:25:54 GMT
I agree Aubrey, why the hell should she leave, but if there is some daft law she is breaking, but by complying with it she breaks some equally daft moral law then I think she could preserve her dignity, in every way, by leaving.
I think if I had been there I would have been tempted to don a black hoodie and some black baggy trousers just to see what happened.
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Post by aubrey on Aug 25, 2016 16:36:56 GMT
I wish some people had done that: though I have read that many were chanting things like "Go back to where you came from" - it's that kind of thing that worries me about this - the Govt ought to be setting a good example, not pandering to Le Pen and her type.
The moral law though - we might think it daft, but she might just see it as part of her life: many of us would feel uncomfortable sporting about semi-naked or even 7/8 naked, and that's got nothing to do with morals, or a moral law.
And there's that bloke in the UK, who keeps getting locked up for walking around in nothing but boots and a rucksack - he thinks the moral and criminal law against nudity is silly; and no one's going to be hurt by seeing his Whang, are they?
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Post by ARENA on Aug 25, 2016 18:22:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2016 19:21:12 GMT
I can't see business being affected by a "Stop advertising in the Sun campaign". They will place their adverts where they will be seen by the greatest number of people, and the Sun has the largest readership. I applaud the actions of the French, if people do not like the traditions and laws of the country they are living in then they should live in a country with those values they seek
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Post by aubrey on Aug 25, 2016 20:08:05 GMT
The French do have those values, just not for Muslims.
Their police would never make a nun, say, take some of her clothing off.
The idea of the Burkini (however it's spelt) was to allow Muslim women to join in with other people and go on the beach: to participate, if you like, in local customs: - IE, to integrate. Integration goes both ways.
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