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Post by rikiiboy on Aug 24, 2024 9:09:06 GMT
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Post by marispiper on Aug 24, 2024 14:46:36 GMT
Farage taking a hit in popularity? Not round here he isn't 🤣 Why do you live in Clacton  No but I have a number of friends up there. I am just in the M25 - all I can say is, he's got a lot of fans! I have said before - within my circle, there have been some surprising ones declaring support for Reform. Tbh, I think it's only down to immigration...to them, he seems the only one addressing it. It's also an 'Essex' thing. |
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Post by hild1066 on Aug 24, 2024 17:01:08 GMT
Completely embarrassing, a figure that high. Not that there aren't SOME with genuine issues but I think people need to realise childhood and puberty, with all their completely natural turmoil, are NOT mental illnesses. Where did it mention puberty. It highlighted a person with autism and learning difficulties who only achieved one GCSE and is now with a supported work provider on a training course - these places often have a two year waiting list. Remember Remploy a national organisation that got work for people in this category, remember when all LAs had to employ a percentage of people with disabilities. All gone now. Councils contract out there services now. The services that employed these people. The article also pointed out that most apprenticeships want higher qualifications than most of these people have. Many young people just left school during the pandemic and they've never gone back. Their educational attainment is so low there's barely anyone who will employ them. Factories don't employ anywhere near the numbers they used to due to mechanisation. Department stores have gone. Jobs for people with few qualifications are not as available as you might think. Most of these people need some kind of training to even understand the basics of operating a till. Many of these people couldn't work in Social Care because their literacy levels are so bad, they can't read notes, write a report or understand instructions. They can push the button on the machine, but there aren't many jobs like that. A local company wanted a receptionist on NLW but they wanted level 5/6 Maths & English. I think that's grade A/B. Why, it's just a builders merchant. SEN has been in such a state for so many years, we regularly get students in our college who have had no proper education for up to 3 years, or they've lain about on a bean bag in a room on their own for two years, because they're complex. It takes us a year to get them socialised again and achieving anything. These numbers aren't going down unless we do something. Let's start with finding apprenticeships with realistic qualifications- everyone can't be able engineer at Rolls Royce, but more could be warehouse operators, forklift truck drivers and machine operator, cleaners and yes, cheerful, friendly receptionists. |
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Post by marispiper on Aug 24, 2024 18:00:23 GMT
I'd say 16-24 includes puberty...
I did actually say there are some with genuine issues. Obviously autism is one and the fact that the article only describes one such young man is far from the bigger picture. I am friends with three such young men - they don't work and cut their lives down to a manageable size with minimal social contacts (even though they are very clever, academically)
But there's a lot more who seemingly just can't cope with growing up.
It was not my favourite period in life, with much unhappiness, but I got over it without being declared mentally ill.
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Post by hild1066 on Aug 24, 2024 18:32:34 GMT
That's it though Maris. When you say you got through it with much unhappiness they say they have anxiety or depression.
Not all of them need more than someone to talk to, but if you have very low job prospects, because even shops are mostly self service these days, it has to add to low mood.
Plus now everyone has to work until they are 67, there aren't as many decent low skilled jobs available.
I see it at work. We have three domestics, and they're very good, but all over 55. One is 64. Because they physically can't manage full time anymore they have reduced their hours and there's no way the company will advertise any of these jobs as full time when they leave. It's the same in the college kitchen, all 5 of the kitchen assistants are part time now and they're all in their 50s.
How do you get someone 25 off benefits to do 20 hrs a week on NLW. They'd probably be worse off. Most supermarkets only offer part time work. The same with a lot of call centres and they are mostly zero hours contracts, with no sick or holiday pay, and they don't have to offer a pension on zero hours contracts. Residential Social Care has gone to 12 hours shifts to reduce staff and Learning Support Assistants in schools are often 30 hours term time only.
It's a different world for young people nowadays. There's no leave school at 16, get a job in the paint factory with good T&Cs, meet someone, get a council house and crack on
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Post by ARENA on Aug 25, 2024 7:03:28 GMT
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Post by rikiiboy on Aug 25, 2024 7:25:20 GMT
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Post by rikiiboy on Aug 25, 2024 7:50:26 GMT
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Post by marispiper on Aug 25, 2024 8:01:40 GMT
That's it though Maris. When you say you got through it with much unhappiness they say they have anxiety or depression. Not all of them need more than someone to talk to, but if you have very low job prospects, because even shops are mostly self service these days, it has to add to low mood. Plus now everyone has to work until they are 67, there aren't as many decent low skilled jobs available. I see it at work. We have three domestics, and they're very good, but all over 55. One is 64. Because they physically can't manage full time anymore they have reduced their hours and there's no way the company will advertise any of these jobs as full time when they leave. It's the same in the college kitchen, all 5 of the kitchen assistants are part time now and they're all in their 50s. How do you get someone 25 off benefits to do 20 hrs a week on NLW. They'd probably be worse off. Most supermarkets only offer part time work. The same with a lot of call centres and they are mostly zero hours contracts, with no sick or holiday pay, and they don't have to offer a pension on zero hours contracts. Residential Social Care has gone to 12 hours shifts to reduce staff and Learning Support Assistants in schools are often 30 hours term time only. It's a different world for young people nowadays. There's no leave school at 16, get a job in the paint factory with good T&Cs, meet someone, get a council house and crack on A lot of truth in your post Hildie ... I think those circumstances in parts of the country fed into the recent riots but you didn't appear to think so. I heard they are upgrading production at a steel plant in Scunthorpe- it's greener (great) but needs 2500 fewer staff to operate it. Desperate. PS. With the advent of AI, things'll get worse for all I reckon. |
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Post by hild1066 on Aug 25, 2024 12:34:34 GMT
I didn't connect them because although people may have a grumble and a moan, at the low pay end of the scale they are more likely than others to be working with immigrants in social care, hospitality, call centres and shop and they know they have work visas.
Also and massively not everyone is a violent racist....or just violent. That has always been a sub section of the underclass. Their fathers and grandfather's were possibly meeting up after football matches in some abandoned lot for a fight.
They have to be separate from ordinary people who want a sensible well managed immigration system, but don't actually want to kill immigrants.
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Post by rikiiboy on Aug 25, 2024 12:44:53 GMT
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Post by rikiiboy on Aug 25, 2024 22:24:53 GMT
We bred over two decades of children, we sought to give them as much as we could afford, they gave birth to our children today, they mostly fed their children with fast food, due to having to work and support their offspring .so who's fault is this?
[Cancer rates in the UK have been increasing since the early 1990s, with the exception of non-melanoma skin cancer. The number of people in the UK living with cancer is expected to increase from 3 million today to 4 million by 2030. This is due to a number of factors, including:
Population growth and aging: People who are older are at a higher risk of developing cancer. ]
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Post by ARENA on Aug 26, 2024 5:31:15 GMT
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Post by marispiper on Aug 26, 2024 8:48:16 GMT
I didn't connect them because although people may have a grumble and a moan, at the low pay end of the scale they are more likely than others to be working with immigrants in social care, hospitality, call centres and shop and they know they have work visas. Also and massively not everyone is a violent racist....or just violent. That has always been a sub section of the underclass. Their fathers and grandfather's were possibly meeting up after football matches in some abandoned lot for a fight. They have to be separate from ordinary people who want a sensible well managed immigration system, but don't actually want to kill immigrants. That's the thing - you believe the rioting was solely about immigration. I don't. Yes, that sparked for for sure but myself, I think it sparked anger in thousands of disgruntled people about much wider issues, and migrants, often mistakenly, get the blame. As if reducing immigration would solve that...it wouldn't. |
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Post by rikiiboy on Aug 26, 2024 15:32:50 GMT
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