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Post by rikiiboy on Jun 22, 2024 11:17:44 GMT
The grey voters savings attack?
[Mr Brown removed a benefit that previously allowed pension funds to reclaim tax on share dividends, which then-shadow chancellor George Osborne branded a "reckless raid on pensioners' savings".
Sir Keir's emphatic and repeated claim that money will not be raised from "working people" has sparked fears that he, like Mr Brown, has savings in his sight.
On Wednesday, the Telegraph warned that Labour could be planning a tax raid on savings and pensions.
Shadow Chancellor Rachel Reeves sought to quell these fears, pointing out that she considers working people to include pension savers.]
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Post by rikiiboy on Jun 22, 2024 15:56:33 GMT
Considering England is supposed to be the sixth richest nation, we are only sisteenth in the European pension chart.
[Which countries in Europe offer the most to retirees in comparison to the country’s cost of living? Rank Country Pension paid out per month in £ Cost of Living Monthly Costs in £ % above/below the pension income breakeven point 1 Spain £2,287.24 £561.43 407.40% 2 Belgium £2,709.93 £720.45 376.14% 3 Luxembourg £3,050.57 £847.32 360.03% 4 Bosnia and Herzegovina £979.72 £411.20 238.26% 5 Cyprus £1,485.81 £646.93 229.67% 6 Liechtenstein £2,061.02 £1,027.36 200.61% 7 France £1,497.73 £751.31 199.35% 8 Denmark £1,647.56 £846.09 194.73% 9 Switzerland £2,123.54 £1,276.40 166.37% 10 Norway £1,579.78 £961.62 164.28% 11 Iceland £1,524.20 £929.55 163.97% 12 Ukraine £482.65 £314.26 153.58% 13 Bulgaria £670.66 £457.57 146.57% 14 Netherlands £1,102.34 £798.21 138.10% 15 Ireland £962.08 £765.87 125.62% 16 United Kingdom £802.32 £688.04 116.61% BREAKEVEN BREAKEVEN BREAKEVEN BREAKEVEN 17 Sweden £705.63 £709.01 99.52% 18 Moldova £357.54 £392.25 91.15% 19 Finland €703.45 £732.70 83.78% 20 Belarus £337.69 £434.20 77.77% 21 Albania £263.13 £386.45 68.09% 22 Romania £283.52 £431.30 65.74% 23 Montenegro £256.32 £437.13 58.64% 24 Croatia £312.68 £541.01 57.80% 25 Greece £335.65 £600.14 55.93% 26 Russia £216.07 £581.13 37.18% 27 Lithuania £173.90 £552.59 31.47% 28 Czech Republic £167.54 £564.34 29.69% 29 Georgia £82.34 £477.03 17.26% 30 Armenia £67.79 £506.81 13.38%]
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Post by skylark on Jun 23, 2024 19:19:37 GMT
Are those figures based on the basic state pension or on Pension Credit though? Most retirees have some other income (eg an occupational pension) after all.
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Post by rikiiboy on Jun 23, 2024 19:23:20 GMT
Are those figures based on the basic state pension or on Pension Credit though? Most retirees have some other income (eg an occupational pension) after all. I believe they are less than that for people not receiving any benefits and the haven't completed the full payments into the system. [The full basic State Pension you can get is £169.50 per week. You need 30 qualifying years of National Insurance contributions to get the full amount. You'll still get something if you have at least 1 qualifying year, but it'll be less than the full amount.]
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Post by hild1066 on Jun 24, 2024 8:13:14 GMT
The thing about comparison charts is that you need to know that it's like for like. The State Pension is Spain is better but there is very little else available e.g. no pensioner's credit, very low levels of social care.
Their benefit system overall is worse than ours and their covid payments were much lower and in most case had to be paid back. My sister was laid off for 4 months and got the govt benefit 'loan', which she is now having deducted from her wages at £15 pm. A lot of European countries went this way and backed a govt loan scheme, but people are now paying it back. We just threw money at businesses and have only managed to get a tiny proportion back. The govt wound up 33 companies just recently and they had been given millions in loans.
Also in Spain unemployment benefit is lower and last for about 6-10 months (it can take about 3 months to get it too) and then you go on a kind of voucher scheme, where you get a bit of money and food/clothing vouchers or in some instances a food parcel based on the numbers in your household. Mind you there is a lot more black market in Spain than we have here.
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Post by rikiiboy on Jun 24, 2024 10:24:28 GMT
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Post by rikiiboy on Jun 25, 2024 8:22:00 GMT
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Post by rikiiboy on Jun 25, 2024 8:58:47 GMT
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Post by rikiiboy on Jun 25, 2024 12:42:52 GMT
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Post by rikiiboy on Jun 26, 2024 7:02:26 GMT
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Post by hild1066 on Jun 26, 2024 12:24:34 GMT
I quite agree, they have not encouraged people to vote. Perhaps that was the intention from the start, but as Rees-Mogg pointed out at the last election, they hadn't calculated how many older people had no photo ID.
If we have to have it then we need to extend the scope and include:
Student Union Cards Disabled Adult Rail Cards Armed Forces ID Cards Union Membership Cards
If an out of date passport can be used, albeit as long as the photo still looks like you, then I don't see why a properly obtained ID from any of the above places shouldn't be included. In order to get any of the above you have to prove who you are. In fact, to take out a phone contract you need photo ID and they accept the ones above.
Besides there is very little evidence that there was any kind of mass voter fraud. There have been one or two cases but nothing significant in all the years we have been running elections. No kind of ID would stop a person being coerced into voting, they would just have a postal vote forced on them by whoever was controlling them. So it wouldn't work in those instances anyway.
We need more people to vote not less. Govts get in on ridiculously low turnouts. This could be worse because of the time. Scottish and Northern Irish schools will already have broken up and people are already heading off to their caravans and lodges for the summer. In England and Wales this is a popular time for overseas holidays because it is cheaper. Festivals are happening across the UK. Yes, I know, Sunak chose it for that reason because he thought young people would still be at uni and lots of people would be on holiday and not around but it's not really fair to people to deny them a vote because they don't have a passport when they have never been abroad in their lives.
Perhaps we should have a fixed date for elections like October or March.
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Post by skylark on Jun 27, 2024 5:47:40 GMT
Yes, the ID thing is ridiculous. Unless the rules have changed, concessionary bus passes are accepted but no student travel cards even those these bear the holder's photo!
I know you can get voter ID on line or from the local council but I expect many just can't be bothered.
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Post by rikiiboy on Jun 27, 2024 6:36:34 GMT
Dick-ins and Dick-outs?
I+salute+the+nurses+who+took+a+stand+against+this+women-have-penises+nonsense
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Post by rikiiboy on Jun 27, 2024 6:57:37 GMT
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Post by rikiiboy on Jun 27, 2024 10:41:52 GMT
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