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Post by marispiper on Sept 25, 2017 12:27:00 GMT
I am glad you posted on this because I did wonder about the inevitable 'orchestration' of people that must go on during the scenes we watch.
Having got to know many youngsters with disabilities, isolation and longing for a close relationship can be an ongoing agony.
I remember one episode a while back where a mother hired a bar once a month so that young men and women (within a radius) with various needs could go along and enjoy the get together, but 'dates' often resulted, which was a bonus.
I also wonder about those watching. I feel a hope that prejudice towards those who are different would be broken down but there is just as much unease at the thought people may simply be laughing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 13:16:06 GMT
Had I realised what the undateables was really about I would never have posted my flippant remark above.
And I agree entirely wit what you have said Hild. It seems that the producers of these shows do not care one iota about the participants. I did watch one episode late one night and it is almost as if they are parading some very unfortunate people as a freak show for entertainment. It does not inform, it does not entertain, it does not educate, so get rid of it.
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Post by ARENA on Sept 25, 2017 13:24:41 GMT
Had I realised what the undateables was really about I would never have posted my flippant remark above. And I agree entirely wit what you have said Hild. It seems that the producers of these shows do not care one iota about the participants. I did watch one episode late one night and it is almost as if they are parading some very unfortunate people as a freak show for entertainment. It does not inform, it does not entertain, it does not educate, so get rid of it. There is one ugly word for this kind of programme..... prurience |
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Post by rondetto on Sept 25, 2017 13:27:24 GMT
Anyone watch that drama with Benedict Cumberbatch last night? I thought it very slow and the ending was very disappointing.
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Post by marispiper on Sept 25, 2017 13:39:22 GMT
Anyone watch that drama with Benedict Cumberbatch last night? I thought it very slow and the ending was very disappointing. I'd read the book but I couldn't make head nor tail what was going on! Turned off. I don't like him anyway... Was the girl in Shetland? Seen her before. |
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Post by marispiper on Sept 25, 2017 14:07:04 GMT
I watched Antiques Roadshow which has been going forty years.
It seems it has all but run its course. I was intrigued to learn in the paper that there's a fair bit of acrimony behind the scenes even though most experts would make 'no comment'
The other thing was that there were fewer and fewer real finds because everybody had become wise to what might be in their attic and had already 'flogged it'!
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Post by rondetto on Sept 25, 2017 14:10:07 GMT
I couldn't make head nor tail either Maris. A very poor ending to it.
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Post by althea on Sept 25, 2017 14:16:12 GMT
I like Richard Osman,but haven't watched his programmes.
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Post by althea on Sept 25, 2017 14:18:20 GMT
I can never bring myself to watch anything about a missing child. The angst is too much for me.
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Post by hild1066 on Sept 26, 2017 11:49:31 GMT
I felt that way too Althea, I just couldn't watch it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2017 11:14:17 GMT
Anyone catch Reggie Yates visit to the slums of Accra, Ghana. Apart from the squalor he found young men who had come to the city looking for work, and who finished up burning the covering off of copper wire so they could then sell the copper. Dangerous noxious work in very primitive conditions, amazing to discover all the electronic stuff that we in the West discard because it is broken or we update finishing up in Africa
There are so called agreements to prevent this happening, basically ignored
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2017 11:04:53 GMT
Did anyone else waste a few hours of their life watching Safe House
One of those with a pathetic ending, or rather no ending
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Post by ARENA on Oct 2, 2017 13:20:12 GMT
OUTLANDER:
There is so much that is good or has potential in this show. The opening music (love it), the opening titles (very well done), the basic premise (loved it).
But despite IMO a strong start, the story fails to get off the ground. Although the show puts in place a strong foundation, and presents a superb opportunity to see a story develop that permits it to showcase the fascinating historic events of that period, and exploit the lead characters perspective with her added insight gleaned from being born 200 years later and exposed to antibiotics, air travel, the radio, petrol, etc, all of this seems missed by the writers.
Instead it turns too quickly into a rather contrived romance between Claire and her captor beau (Jamie). The morality of the lead (Claire) falls too quickly into question when one sees how quickly she forgets her past life and her husband, without considering the possible torment the poor man might be living through in wondering what happened to his wife, is she dead, alive, kidnapped and being tortured and raped etc, or buried in a bog somewhere? Instead Claire marries her beau and abandons her other life with little apparent thought.
But Claire herself is incredibly disappointing. Although well spoken, she seems incapable of making a single good decision. No matter how much forethought and time she has, each time she encounters the villain (Randall) she makes a completely amateur pigs ear of the situation and gets herself in more trouble. You can live with this for a while, but after a while you simply stop routing for her character and just recognise she's too dumb and will only ever dig herself deeper into trouble whenever chance presents itself (which by the end of season 1 she does for her and Jamie) which by the way makes her character seem pathetically weak and intellectually unattractive.
There is a glint of potential when the other 'healer' turns out to have come from the 1960's. But that opportunity passes by without expansion.
After that it trawls through one poor plan after another, with Claire adding no value as a heroine, no clever insights, no real ability to shape events using her knowledge. In fact, overall she is pretty useless and unremarkable.
However, the cliff really appears in the last two episodes. Once again Claire blindly charges in and makes matters so much worse for her Beau. Without even a half baked plan she gets him into so much more trouble and results in his rape. This is where the show transforms IMO into something much darker and really destroys the positive and promising aspects of the show.
The show spends near two episodes exploring the evil side of Jack Randall by demonstrating his villainy on Jamie. We see all kinds of torture going on and on and on and on and on. The FX are superb, but what really is the point, it doesn't add to the show. It doesn't add to the plot. It doesn't make us hate Randall more than we already do for simply being a bad guy. It's not remotely subtle or clever, its just completely in your face and caricature bad. Instead it just descends into a detailed portrays of man on man prison rape. It doesn't even appear to have much of a logical reason behind it.
The graphic scenes of Homosexual Rape are long, and probably offensive to everyone. As someone who fully supports the LGBT movement and supported equal rights in marriage, i found the use of homosexual rape troubling (as i would a detailed portray of heterosexual rape), overly graphic, and nothing to do with really progressing the story.
By the end of the season (all 16 episodes) the show had IMO died. It had morphed from a show that had genuine magical potential, to deliver a wonderful composite of time travel giving us a glimpse into the gritty historical world of 1700s Scotland, and add in the dimension of a strong lead gently drawing on her insights to shape the story imaginatively, into a sort of Silence of the Lambs skinning and torture fest. They could have drawn multiple strong seasons out of the former, but the way they played it i don't expect it to make it to season 3.
All the potential, the magic and allure in the show was pretty much obliterated. I finished the season feeling that i had no interest in whether Claire lived or died. She was broadly useless as a character (certainly as a lead). Jamie was too haunted by his experience. The 1940s situation wasn't adequately addressed emotionally. And the lighter elements of the show were blotted out under the need to use the show as a platform for soft porn scenes that are longer than the real porn videos you can view for free on the internet tube sites.
Does anyone agree with this review?
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Post by norty on Oct 2, 2017 15:32:10 GMT
I read the first book in the series a few years ago as it was recommended by two friends who had devoured the series. I enjoyed the book enough to get to the end, but did I start book 2? No.
The craze for the tv series I think has to do more with the sex scenes from what I'm gathering, I've not seen the TV version at all. After 50 Shades is Outlander not the new fad? We've tied up secretaries in red rooms and flown in helicopters, so now we are going Jacobite with men in kilts.
I found Claire hugely annoying.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2017 8:19:29 GMT
The Apprentice 2017
Usual bunch of self opinionated people, maybe you have to be objectionable to take part in the series
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