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Post by marispiper on Jul 20, 2016 7:40:17 GMT
Theresa May learned today the consequences of appointing a buffoon like Boris Johnson to the Foreign office when the American journalists tore him apart at his joint press conference with John Kerry Trump is being daily torn apart...doesn't seem to be harming him much 😊
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2016 9:06:39 GMT
Theresa May learned today the consequences of appointing a buffoon like Boris Johnson to the Foreign office when the American journalists tore him apart at his joint press conference with John Kerry Trump is being daily torn apart...doesn't seem to be harming him much 😊 Frightening, isn't it Almost seems that the more divisive a politician you are the more support you will gain. Perhaps it's an indication of how divisive society has become, not just in the USA I thought we had moved beyond that
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Post by marispiper on Jul 20, 2016 9:11:59 GMT
May off to see Merkel today... this is a sweetening visit so's more time can be bought. Article 50 seems a long way off...
Despite May's soothing 'I'm listening to you' noises, and 'Brexit means Brexit', there are so many moves to scupper this (UK response inc Scotland, Act of Parliament...not to mention Remain still in complete denial) I will believe it when I see it!
Instead of moving forward with momentum- like we do after any election (which most wouldn't have voted for) we seem destined to go round in circles in attempts to undo a democratic result.
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Post by marispiper on Jul 20, 2016 9:21:56 GMT
Trump is being daily torn apart...doesn't seem to be harming him much 😊 Frightening, isn't it Almost seems that the more divisive a politician you are the more support you will gain. Perhaps it's an indication of how divisive society has become, not just in the USA I thought we had moved beyond that
Division is right Gus and you can see it in so many ways... in the US, France, Turkey...in fact that's the one thing I would wish for this country.. to maintain our (relative) harmony!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2016 9:21:58 GMT
And the loss of benefits? Since you appear to be setting yourself up for the spokesperson of this divisive regime, perhaps you can tell us what the benefits are and how they will be safeguarded. Not at all setting myself up as a spokesperson, simply trying to counter the torrent of comment by people who seem to think a vote is only valid if they get the result they want. And I think Marispiper makes a very good point when she says that people who chose to live overseas could be regarded as having emigrated. I don't know what EU benefits you get in France, but as you have said before you can vote in some local elections. My ex wife lived in Australia for years and constantly complains about her Aus pension being eroded by the exchange rate. One thing that occurred to me was you complained that some faceless guru disenfranchised you and many others born here. Well the referendum was organised initially by people who thought they would win by a country mile. If they had thought the result might have been tight they would I think have tried to get every British person living in Europe the vote, so there have to be other reasons.
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Post by marispiper on Jul 20, 2016 9:35:45 GMT
Jon's comment shows how poorly thought through the referendum actually was and the Act (as far as I know) only covered how it should be conducted, not what should be done post-result. That, to me, means gov.UK thought Remain was a cert and the exercise was conducted simply to shut up what they thought were just a loud minority of dissenters.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2016 11:26:27 GMT
And the loss of benefits? Since you appear to be setting yourself up for the spokesperson of this divisive regime, perhaps you can tell us what the benefits are and how they will be safeguarded. Not at all setting myself up as a spokesperson, simply trying to counter the torrent of comment by people who seem to think a vote is only valid if they get the result they want. And I think Marispiper makes a very good point when she says that people who chose to live overseas could be regarded as having emigrated. I don't know what EU benefits you get in France, but as you have said before you can vote in some local elections. My ex wife lived in Australia for years and constantly complains about her Aus pension being eroded by the exchange rate. One thing that occurred to me was you complained that some faceless guru disenfranchised you and many others born here. Well the referendum was organised initially by people who thought they would win by a country mile. If they had thought the result might have been tight they would I think have tried to get every British person living in Europe the vote, so there have to be other reasons. I think there is a difference between choosing to live in Spain for example, and emigrating to the likes of Australia. Spain is just a short hop away by plane and those ex pats who live there regularly pop back for healthcare and other benefits that they have paid into during a long working life in the UK
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Post by marispiper on Jul 20, 2016 15:13:05 GMT
Not at all setting myself up as a spokesperson, simply trying to counter the torrent of comment by people who seem to think a vote is only valid if they get the result they want. And I think Marispiper makes a very good point when she says that people who chose to live overseas could be regarded as having emigrated. I don't know what EU benefits you get in France, but as you have said before you can vote in some local elections. My ex wife lived in Australia for years and constantly complains about her Aus pension being eroded by the exchange rate. One thing that occurred to me was you complained that some faceless guru disenfranchised you and many others born here. Well the referendum was organised initially by people who thought they would win by a country mile. If they had thought the result might have been tight they would I think have tried to get every British person living in Europe the vote, so there have to be other reasons. I think there is a difference between choosing to live in Spain for example, and emigrating to the likes of Australia. Spain is just a short hop away by plane and those ex pats who live there regularly pop back for healthcare and other benefits that they have paid into during a long working life in the UK That's what I mean by my extended-holiday-long-leash analogy. Sounds like wanting the best of both worlds (literally) and being quite miffed when they don't get it!
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Post by goldelox on Jul 20, 2016 15:20:16 GMT
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Post by marispiper on Jul 20, 2016 15:51:42 GMT
A pretty safe bet I'd say 😒 With every day that passes, the whole debacle looks farcical. I wonder if Cameron looks at the paper in his £17m 'favour' house and squirms at the mess he's created? No probably not... likely in the med/caribbean ...oblivious... in another mate's pad... And who gets blamed? Who is everyone angry with? Why..the voters! Its a tough life.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2016 17:24:55 GMT
A pretty safe bet I'd say 😒 With every day that passes, the whole debacle looks farcical. I wonder if Cameron looks at the paper in his £17m 'favour' house and squirms at the mess he's created? No probably not... likely in the med/caribbean ...oblivious... in another mate's pad... And who gets blamed? Who is everyone angry with? Why..the voters! Its a tough life. If it wasn't for the Scottish Nationalists Ed Miliband would have been Prime Minister, and none of this would have happened I see French security has been "stepped up" because of Nice resulting in three hour delays on the Dover/Calais route with the M20 turned into a car park Strange that they didn't do this after Paris etc., are they just being bloody minded in typical French fashion after the Brexit vote
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Post by ARENA on Jul 20, 2016 17:58:55 GMT
Not so much an exit more a ,hoped for, fudge.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2016 8:58:05 GMT
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Post by marispiper on Jul 27, 2016 17:30:05 GMT
Glaxo Smith Klein and MacDonald's cheering us up 😁 - UK economy still attractive...of course!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2016 10:25:40 GMT
And EDF about to announce the go ahead on Hinckley C. think the investment is about £18 billion.
Yep, we are all doomed.
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