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Post by hild1066 on Aug 4, 2020 12:27:45 GMT
I went to three pubs during my holiday. I had to book a table each time and they would only allocate a 2 hour slot. That was fine by me, I was only going early on and still wanted the daylight to walk to a my hut.
However, what I did notice was that you did not have to book the outside tables and that appeared to be where everyone was gathering, in sometimes quite large groups.
Since I've been back I had to drive to Yarm to pick up a plate from an antique dealer for a friend's birthday, they said they would leave it outside the door at 11am and watch out the window until I collected it. As there had been an accident on the A19 and a huge diversion on the way down I decided to stay and have some lunch. It's quite a pricey place Yarm so I walked the length of the High Street checking prices and eventually found a pub within my range. This also had a large beer garden but you had to be allocated table. They came out and told a large group that they could not pull two tables together and they left in a huff. I was allocated a sort of greenhouse affair, with my table inside.
I haven't been to an actual restaurant so far and don't really have any intention.
I think the guidance in hospitality is pretty much the same as in other sectors, it is guidance and not regulation and some places are interpreting things differently.
I have notice the tone from Ministers has altered a little. They are definitely now talking about enforcement and fines a lot more than they were and I noticed this morning that LTR released the number of fines last month. They should do it like the Metro up here used to - they printed a poster every month, with the names and home town/area of each person fined and put it up at every station.
sadly I think enforcement will be up to each constabulary and other officers.
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Post by jimmy2020 on Aug 4, 2020 13:21:52 GMT
I went to three pubs during my holiday. I had to book a table each time and they would only allocate a 2 hour slot. That was fine by me, I was only going early on and still wanted the daylight to walk to a my hut. However, what I did notice was that you did not have to book the outside tables and that appeared to be where everyone was gathering, in sometimes quite large groups. Since I've been back I had to drive to Yarm to pick up a plate from an antique dealer for a friend's birthday, they said they would leave it outside the door at 11am and watch out the window until I collected it. As there had been an accident on the A19 and a huge diversion on the way down I decided to stay and have some lunch. It's quite a pricey place Yarm so I walked the length of the High Street checking prices and eventually found a pub within my range. This also had a large beer garden but you had to be allocated table. They came out and told a large group that they could not pull two tables together and they left in a huff. I was allocated a sort of greenhouse affair, with my table inside. I haven't been to an actual restaurant so far and don't really have any intention. I think the guidance in hospitality is pretty much the same as in other sectors, it is guidance and not regulation and some places are interpreting things differently. I have notice the tone from Ministers has altered a little. They are definitely now talking about enforcement and fines a lot more than they were and I noticed this morning that LTR released the number of fines last month. They should do it like the Metro up here used to - they printed a poster every month, with the names and home town/area of each person fined and put it up at every station. sadly I think enforcement will be up to each constabulary and other officers. I'm not an eater out, being a "careful" person I always look at the prices and think how much cheaper I could make this much cheaper at home. Food to me is just a necessity of life not something to spend hours sitting at a table for, which causes problems when we visit the in-laws in Belgium who can spend hours over a meal I suspect that the days of compliance with the social distancing are rapidly disappearing and great problems are looming. Civil disobedience ? |
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Post by hild1066 on Aug 5, 2020 11:56:29 GMT
I would say it's an each way bet on that.
By far the majority of people are wearing masks, by far the majority are still curtailing their social/leisure activities and reducing their shopping trips etc. The only reason I was in 3 pubs was because I was on holiday with minimal self-catering facilities. I realised quite quickly that if you have lunch at about 1.45pm or dinner at 5pm if is very quiet and those times suited me for the 3 times I went.
The problem over the summer is going to be the huge groups of young people gathering everywhere. The police were moving them on from the beach but watching from the cliffs, they were like starlings swirling around and regrouping. There wasn't anything more two police could do when faced with hundreds of youngsters (several groups), other than to continuously chase them. If the govt don't want the youngsters gathering like this they will have to target areas and start handing out fines. After all, they always manage to find enough police when there's a football match etc.
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Post by jonjel2 on Aug 5, 2020 12:58:07 GMT
I would say it's an each way bet on that. By far the majority of people are wearing masks, by far the majority are still curtailing their social/leisure activities and reducing their shopping trips etc. The only reason I was in 3 pubs was because I was on holiday with minimal self-catering facilities. I realised quite quickly that if you have lunch at about 1.45pm or dinner at 5pm if is very quiet and those times suited me for the 3 times I went. The problem over the summer is going to be the huge groups of young people gathering everywhere. The police were moving them on from the beach but watching from the cliffs, they were like starlings swirling around and regrouping. There wasn't anything more two police could do when faced with hundreds of youngsters (several groups), other than to continuously chase them. If the govt don't want the youngsters gathering like this they will have to target areas and start handing out fines. After all, they always manage to find enough police when there's a football match etc. I may be wrong but I think at football matches the club pay for the policing. But I agree, people deliberately flouting the rules/law should be fined. |
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Post by althea on Aug 5, 2020 16:03:54 GMT
I think we should take a lesson from the Australian police. In Melbourne, where there is a strict lockdown due to rising cases, police smashed car windows and dragged out the people who would not open their windows and give their names and addresses.
They don't muck about there.
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Post by hild1066 on Aug 6, 2020 11:39:33 GMT
Actually the police on the beach here would have been better occupied standing at the top of the beach steps. Filming the groups and then catching them as they came up to go to the loos, get a hot dog, leave etc. instead of scattering them around over and over again.
I have to say they appeared to be enjoying it and had a bloke from the council putting towels, trainers and tops into bin bags. Which probably constitutes theft - as the items had not been 'left' just not picked up at that time by what a barrister would say was from the fact that they were being chased. The police were laughing at a girl who was crying and asking if they had her Nike Air Maxx trainers - of course they did, but they wanted her to suffer a bit first - over a £100 a pop for the trainers, but still they didn't fine her.
In some ways it was almost like they were having a good day out at the beach winding up the kids instead of effectively trying to effect some behaviour change.
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