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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 13:21:45 GMT
When I generalised about young people not caring about the planet,I was thinking of the young people who pass here and leave their takeaway cartons up and down the street.In fact,they drop litter everywhere. Often over the wall into my garden. I've lost count of the crisp packets and chocolate bar wrappers I pick up.
Not just young people as well. I always have pockets full of rubbish.
I was shocked though to see in a French Tin Tin film from 1960 Tin Tin and Captain Haddock unwrapping something in the street and dropping the paper on the floor without looking at it, without even noticing what they were doing: it was as if the paper had ceased to exist the moment it left their hands.
Not mob rule, Jimmy - the freedom to demonstrate is an important part of democracy. The alternative is stuff like Peterloo, or Tienanmen Square.
That is true if you have democracy Look at the yellow jackets in Paris and the current situation on Hong Kong where the protesters are so frustrated that their views are not listened to or they disagree with executive decisions How long until that happens here in the UK where we effectively have no current opposition because of a weak and useless leader
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 13:26:51 GMT
When I generalised about young people not caring about the planet,I was thinking of the young people who pass here and leave their takeaway cartons up and down the street.In fact,they drop litter everywhere. Often over the wall into my garden. I've lost count of the crisp packets and chocolate bar wrappers I pick up. Interestingly we live next to a main walk to school route and had all sorts of litter dumped on our drive as they munched their way to school. Said drive runs parallel to the road, was rather scruffy and sad This January we had the drive "tarted up" with fresh tarmac (As a neighbour put it "You have increased your kerb appeal and added £10,000 to your property value) Since then not one single piece of litter has been dumped on us
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Post by ARENA on Jul 2, 2019 14:42:17 GMT
The Daily Mail always do this story - the plastic was just an added snipe. It all gets cleared away in a few hours. The Mail published several anti-Glastonbury (and anti-young people in general) pieces over the weekend.
There were no plastic bottled drinks available to buy on the site, but people could take their own plastic bottles and refill them with free water. It's had to know what more the organisers could have done, short of banning plastic from the site altogether.
You can't blame the Mail. The fact is there was tons of discarded plastic and cans littering the place, widely shown on TV. All this despite Attenborough appearing to tumultuous applause praising them for being so called plastic fee area I do not think that this generation is too bothered about plastic etc, they look at China, India and the USA belching out noxious substances and think that there is little they can do. Education seems to have influenced children today so maybe the next generation will thin differently To be honest I like my supermarket produce wrapped or sealed in plastic to protect me from any germ ridden hands that may have touched it before me
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 9:15:46 GMT
You can't blame the Mail. The fact is there was tons of discarded plastic and cans littering the place, widely shown on TV. All this despite Attenborough appearing to tumultuous applause praising them for being so called plastic fee area I do not think that this generation is too bothered about plastic etc, they look at China, India and the USA belching out noxious substances and think that there is little they can do. Education seems to have influenced children today so maybe the next generation will thin differently To be honest I like my supermarket produce wrapped or sealed in plastic to protect me from any germ ridden hands that may have touched it before me
You cannot tell , at a distance, whether plastic is re-cyclable or not. You would think that in this great scientific age somebody would invent a plastic which could be universally used and is fully recyclable |
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Post by aubrey on Jul 3, 2019 11:28:34 GMT
You cannot tell , at a distance, whether plastic is re-cyclable or not. You would think that in this great scientific age somebody would invent a plastic which could be universally used and is fully recyclable
I don't know how universal this is, but it might be a start:
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Post by ARENA on Jul 3, 2019 12:10:18 GMT
You cannot tell , at a distance, whether plastic is re-cyclable or not. You would think that in this great scientific age somebody would invent a plastic which could be universally used and is fully recyclable There are plastics that are recyclable or degradable |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 12:31:16 GMT
You would think that in this great scientific age somebody would invent a plastic which could be universally used and is fully recyclable There are plastics that are recyclable or degradable I know there are but my point is that all plastics should be I suspect we are talking big business, I think I am right that all plastics are a by product of the oil industry who will have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo
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Post by ARENA on Jul 3, 2019 13:50:28 GMT
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Post by althea on Jul 3, 2019 15:09:01 GMT
The US supermarkets have always used paper sacks instead of plastic carrier bags. I wonder why we can't do that here. I often wonder,when I sit here clutching my bag for life,under my special bulb lamp,if it's worth it. As Arena says,China and the US,and many other countries,are belching out the harmful effects of production. What the UK is doing is a drop in the ocean. BTW,Jimmy, our drive is smart and we have fantastic gates that everyone admires.It doesn't stop the litter though.  |
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Post by aubrey on Jul 3, 2019 16:11:15 GMT
There are plastics that are recyclable or degradable I know there are but my point is that all plastics should be I suspect we are talking big business, I think I am right that all plastics are a by product of the oil industry who will have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo
Oh, yes.
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Post by aubrey on Jul 3, 2019 16:15:35 GMT
The US supermarkets have always used paper sacks instead of plastic carrier bags. I wonder why we can't do that here. I often wonder,when I sit here clutching my bag for life,under my special bulb lamp,if it's worth it. As Arena says,China and the US,and many other countries,are belching out the harmful effects of production. What the UK is doing is a drop in the ocean. BTW,Jimmy, our drive is smart and we have fantastic gates that everyone admires.It doesn't stop the litter though.
The US system seems to be just to get the shopping from the supermarket to the car; you wouldn't want to be going on the bus with a couple of those:
(This picture is the first time I realised that a shopping bag in the US meant something different to what it means here.)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 18:22:27 GMT
The US supermarkets have always used paper sacks instead of plastic carrier bags. I wonder why we can't do that here. I often wonder,when I sit here clutching my bag for life,under my special bulb lamp,if it's worth it. As Arena says,China and the US,and many other countries,are belching out the harmful effects of production. What the UK is doing is a drop in the ocean. BTW,Jimmy, our drive is smart and we have fantastic gates that everyone admires.It doesn't stop the litter though. Was it previously like ours, scruffy and untidy when we used to get litter. It's only since we've had it upgraded and tarmacked that littering has stopped It's probably just a coincidence but I would lie to think that the litter droppers respect what we have done
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Post by ARENA on Jul 3, 2019 19:18:48 GMT
The US supermarkets have always used paper sacks instead of plastic carrier bags. I wonder why we can't do that here. I often wonder,when I sit here clutching my bag for life,under my special bulb lamp,if it's worth it. As Arena says,China and the US,and many other countries,are belching out the harmful effects of production. What the UK is doing is a drop in the ocean. BTW,Jimmy, our drive is smart and we have fantastic gates that everyone admires.It doesn't stop the litter though. The US system seems to be just to get the shopping from the supermarket to the car; you wouldn't want to be going on the bus with a couple of those: (This picture is the first time I realised that a shopping bag in the US meant something different to what it means here.)
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Post by aubrey on Jul 4, 2019 7:06:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2019 10:06:57 GMT
"The US system seems to be just to get the shopping from the supermarket to the car; you wouldn't want to be going on the bus with a couple of those"
In the good old days mother would get the shopping, anything loose in paper bags, load it all into her shopping bag and walk home. No buses !
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