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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2019 8:36:29 GMT
"So much for the plastic ban! The great Glastonbury clean-up begins as sea of bottles and food waste covers the site just hours after David Attenborough praised festival for going 'plastic-free' "
www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
Consumers are just not taking any notice of the worries about plastic pollution There was a feature on TV about a small company working flat out to recycle plastic into blocks that were then used to build one of the stages at Glastonbury. Sounds like an ideal building material, and if a small company can do that why doesn't a big company take this on in a major industrial way |
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Post by aubrey on Jul 1, 2019 9:15:01 GMT
"So much for the plastic ban! The great Glastonbury clean-up begins as sea of bottles and food waste covers the site just hours after David Attenborough praised festival for going 'plastic-free' "
www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
Consumers are just not taking any notice of the worries about plastic pollution There was a feature on TV about a small company working flat out to recycle plastic into blocks that were then used to build one of the stages at Glastonbury. Sounds like an ideal building material, and if a small company can do that why doesn't a big company take this on in a major industrial way
The Daily Mail always do this story - the plastic was just an added snipe. It all gets cleared away in a few hours. The Mail published several anti-Glastonbury (and anti-young people in general) pieces over the weekend.
There were no plastic bottled drinks available to buy on the site, but people could take their own plastic bottles and refill them with free water. It's had to know what more the organisers could have done, short of banning plastic from the site altogether.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2019 10:09:45 GMT
"So much for the plastic ban! The great Glastonbury clean-up begins as sea of bottles and food waste covers the site just hours after David Attenborough praised festival for going 'plastic-free' "
www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
Consumers are just not taking any notice of the worries about plastic pollution There was a feature on TV about a small company working flat out to recycle plastic into blocks that were then used to build one of the stages at Glastonbury. Sounds like an ideal building material, and if a small company can do that why doesn't a big company take this on in a major industrial way
The Daily Mail always do this story - the plastic was just an added snipe. It all gets cleared away in a few hours. The Mail published several anti-Glastonbury (and anti-young people in general) pieces over the weekend.
There were no plastic bottled drinks available to buy on the site, but people could take their own plastic bottles and refill them with free water. It's had to know what more the organisers could have done, short of banning plastic from the site altogether.
You can't blame the Mail. The fact is there was tons of discarded plastic and cans littering the place, widely shown on TV. All this despite Attenborough appearing to tumultuous applause praising them for being so called plastic fee area I do not think that this generation is too bothered about plastic etc, they look at China, India and the USA belching out noxious substances and think that there is little they can do. Education seems to have influenced children today so maybe the next generation will thin differently To be honest I like my supermarket produce wrapped or sealed in plastic to protect me from any germ ridden hands that may have touched it before me
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Post by aubrey on Jul 1, 2019 10:48:26 GMT
There always is rubbish there, as there is after every large gathering of people. The point for the organisers and Attenborough is that there was no plastic sold on site, and that the plastic water bottles brought in from outside were not single use: that instead of buying a new bottle every time people refilled them.
We used to buy potatoes with earth stuck to them.
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Post by rondetto on Jul 1, 2019 14:45:41 GMT
I read today that Boots are starting to use paper bags instead of plastic bags now.
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Post by althea on Jul 1, 2019 15:40:26 GMT
I am worried by the lack of urgency by many young people ( not all of them,I know) about the destruction of our planet.
I am reading a book at the moment,set in the future and though it's fiction,it makes sombre reading.
There are no animals left in this world and no one has bothered to learn old skills.
When machines cease to work they are left. Medical skills are lost,along with academic subjects.
The population has dwindled and there are no scientists left.
Sometimes it makes me think this book could be close to predicting the future.
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Post by aubrey on Jul 1, 2019 17:06:34 GMT
I am worried by the lack of urgency by many young people ( not all of them,I know) about the destruction of our planet. I am reading a book at the moment,set in the future and though it's fiction,it makes sombre reading. There are no animals left in this world and no one has bothered to learn old skills. When machines cease to work they are left. Medical skills are lost,along with academic subjects. The population has dwindled and there are no scientists left. Sometimes it makes me think this book could be close to predicting the future.
I'm as worried by the older people who tell young people who do try to do something about it that they're at best naive sheep guided by Soros (etc) and at worst millenarian weirdos who need a good shake and then to keep out of things they don't understand.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2019 19:50:58 GMT
I am worried by the lack of urgency by many young people ( not all of them,I know) about the destruction of our planet. I am reading a book at the moment,set in the future and though it's fiction,it makes sombre reading. There are no animals left in this world and no one has bothered to learn old skills. When machines cease to work they are left. Medical skills are lost,along with academic subjects. The population has dwindled and there are no scientists left. Sometimes it makes me think this book could be close to predicting the future.
I'm as worried by the older people who tell young people who do try to do something about it that they're at best naive sheep guided by Soros (etc) and at worst millenarian weirdos who need a good shake and then to keep out of things they don't understand.
I'm more worried by the anarchical behaviour of the old and young who disrupt everybody trying to get to work to highlight and promote their point of view. When direct action threatens society, society will ignore and kick back |
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Post by aubrey on Jul 2, 2019 6:45:02 GMT
I'm as worried by the older people who tell young people who do try to do something about it that they're at best naive sheep guided by Soros (etc) and at worst millenarian weirdos who need a good shake and then to keep out of things they don't understand.
I'm more worried by the anarchical behaviour of the old and young who disrupt everybody trying to get to work to highlight and promote their point of view. When direct action threatens society, society will ignore and kick back
The protests in London just meant that people had to change their route into work. The two people I live with were affected but they said it wasn't bad. There's always something in London anyway, and I'd rather have that than live in a society where protests are illegal.
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Post by starlilolill on Jul 2, 2019 9:13:56 GMT
I'm with you there Aubrey. Peaceful protest is a right that is precious - often ignored by the powers that be of course!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 9:56:18 GMT
I'm more worried by the anarchical behaviour of the old and young who disrupt everybody trying to get to work to highlight and promote their point of view. When direct action threatens society, society will ignore and kick back
The protests in London just meant that people had to change their route into work. The two people I live with were affected but they said it wasn't bad. There's always something in London anyway, and I'd rather have that than live in a society where protests are illegal.
Sorry, I don't agree. What you are condoning is "mob rule", a dangerous path to support |
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Post by althea on Jul 2, 2019 10:06:55 GMT
When I generalised about young people not caring about the planet,I was thinking of the young people who pass here and leave their takeaway cartons up and down the street.In fact,they drop litter everywhere.
Often over the wall into my garden. I've lost count of the crisp packets and chocolate bar wrappers I pick up.
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Post by aubrey on Jul 2, 2019 10:47:25 GMT
When I generalised about young people not caring about the planet,I was thinking of the young people who pass here and leave their takeaway cartons up and down the street.In fact,they drop litter everywhere. Often over the wall into my garden. I've lost count of the crisp packets and chocolate bar wrappers I pick up.
Not just young people as well. I always have pockets full of rubbish.
I was shocked though to see in a French Tin Tin film from 1960 Tin Tin and Captain Haddock unwrapping something in the street and dropping the paper on the floor without looking at it, without even noticing what they were doing: it was as if the paper had ceased to exist the moment it left their hands.
Not mob rule, Jimmy - the freedom to demonstrate is an important part of democracy. The alternative is stuff like Peterloo, or Tienanmen Square.
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Post by starlilolill on Jul 2, 2019 11:40:08 GMT
We will have to disagree on 'mob rule' especially the 'mob' bit! Peaceful protest has to be allowed unless you want a dictatorship of course. We can write letters, send emails etc etc but unless the powers that be can be seen to be ignoring protests they will go unchallenged. The citizens of the Uk, for far too long, have allowed wars etc to be called in their name when even a protest had no effect. We need to stand up for our principles and beliefs or be walked all over.
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Post by ARENA on Jul 2, 2019 12:13:16 GMT
When I generalised about young people not caring about the planet,I was thinking of the young people who pass here and leave their takeaway cartons up and down the street.In fact,they drop litter everywhere. Often over the wall into my garden. I've lost count of the crisp packets and chocolate bar wrappers I pick up. Not just young people as well. I always have pockets full of rubbish. I was shocked though to see in a French Tin Tin film from 1960 Tin Tin and Captain Haddock unwrapping something in the street and dropping the paper on the floor without looking at it, without even noticing what they were doing: it was as if the paper had ceased to exist the moment it left their hands. Not mob rule, Jimmy - the freedom to demonstrate is an important part of democracy. The alternative is stuff like Peterloo, or Tienanmen Square.
When watching Talking Pictures , note what the smokers in old films did with their fag ends and matches....they toss them away with disregard, even in people's houses! |
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