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Post by ARENA on Apr 11, 2020 9:01:01 GMT
I realise the need to keep us informed of CV 19 it's serious news ;but is that all that's happening ? On news channels the entire output is just that.
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Post by jimmy20 on Apr 11, 2020 9:56:07 GMT
I realise the need to keep us informed of CV 19 it's serious news ;but is that all that's happening ? On news channels the entire output is just that. Plus a non stop array of professors and leading academics with pretty much the same advice (what do these people do the rest of the time?), and endless clips of people doing daft things to relieve their monotony and worthy people doing good deeds |
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Post by jonjel on Apr 11, 2020 17:41:07 GMT
I am too young to remember (much of) WW2 other than being bombed and homeless and my dad very occasionally coming home from sea, and was too young to read, but I would guess that the news coverage then was solidly war war war war, with stories of those cads who had defied the blackout, and stories of racketeers, and of course heroes, many heroes. In the grim situation we are facing I don't think the news coverage is that extreme. What is different is clowns like Piers Morgan and a few (more than a few) others criticising the government at every turn from their positions of ignorant self importance. And the real difference is, had they done that during WW2 I suspect they would have been interned.
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Post by jimmy20 on Apr 11, 2020 17:53:01 GMT
I am too young to remember (much of) WW2 other than being bombed and homeless and my dad very occasionally coming home from sea, and was too young to read, but I would guess that the news coverage then was solidly war war war war, with stories of those cads who had defied the blackout, and stories of racketeers, and of course heroes, many heroes. In the grim situation we are facing I don't think the news coverage is that extreme. What is different is clowns like Piers Morgan and a few (more than a few) others criticising the government at every turn from their positions of ignorant self importance. And the real difference is, had they done that during WW2 I suspect they would have been interned. During the war news was strictly controlled and censored for obvious reasons. Most actually came from Germany via Lord Haw Haw who regularly gave accurate broadcasts of German victories which the UK government desperately tried to suppress It is right that broadcasters today challenge government announcements and policies, or point up areas that need action and attention What annoys me t the moment is the way the Downing St press conference is cut off at 6 pm by the BBC for the News to start, news which they have been running all day. The fact that the conference is the news seems to have escaped them |
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Post by jonjel on Apr 12, 2020 9:34:56 GMT
I am too young to remember (much of) WW2 other than being bombed and homeless and my dad very occasionally coming home from sea, and was too young to read, but I would guess that the news coverage then was solidly war war war war, with stories of those cads who had defied the blackout, and stories of racketeers, and of course heroes, many heroes. In the grim situation we are facing I don't think the news coverage is that extreme. What is different is clowns like Piers Morgan and a few (more than a few) others criticising the government at every turn from their positions of ignorant self importance. And the real difference is, had they done that during WW2 I suspect they would have been interned. During the war news was strictly controlled and censored for obvious reasons. Most actually came from Germany via Lord Haw Haw who regularly gave accurate broadcasts of German victories which the UK government desperately tried to suppress It is right that broadcasters today challenge government announcements and policies, or point up areas that need action and attention What annoys me t the moment is the way the Downing St press conference is cut off at 6 pm by the BBC for the News to start, news which they have been running all day. The fact that the conference is the news seems to have escaped them I really can't believe that you are suggesting that the 'real news came from William Joyce! And for you to suggest what he said was 'accurate'. Really? Of course our news in the UK was heavily censored, but Joyce broadcast exactly what the enemy wanted him to broadcast. |
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Post by jimmy20 on Apr 12, 2020 12:41:23 GMT
During the war news was strictly controlled and censored for obvious reasons. Most actually came from Germany via Lord Haw Haw who regularly gave accurate broadcasts of German victories which the UK government desperately tried to suppress It is right that broadcasters today challenge government announcements and policies, or point up areas that need action and attention What annoys me t the moment is the way the Downing St press conference is cut off at 6 pm by the BBC for the News to start, news which they have been running all day. The fact that the conference is the news seems to have escaped them I really can't believe that you are suggesting that the 'real news came from William Joyce! And for you to suggest what he said was 'accurate'. Really? Of course our news in the UK was heavily censored, but Joyce broadcast exactly what the enemy wanted him to broadcast. He did indeed. Of course he concentrated on German victories that the British population were not told about because it was thought that it would demoralise the public who would then support the bid for surrender and peace. Even the Dunkirk situation was suppressed until the troops had successfully been brought home by the little ships flotilla If you don't believe how much the truth was hidden I suggest that you watch Darkest Hour, a movie that shows how Churchill tried to control publicity |
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Post by jonjel on Apr 12, 2020 13:53:59 GMT
Of course bad news was supressed, just the same as when the Nazi troops retreated from Moscow and died of cold and hunger in their tens of thousands. They had in fact got as far as the tram tracks on the outskirts of Moscow. Joyce was full of it when they were sweeping across Russia, but not when some of the poor buggers tried to make it home.
I don't think much if any of the facts on C19 are being supressed here. The difference is a lot of so called journalists without any scientific background or understanding are criticising the government at every possible opportunity, largely from a political standpoint. Lest they forget people here have quite long memories, as can be seen from the sale of The Sun in the Liverpool area after they published false information about the causes of Hillsborough. |
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Post by aubrey on Apr 12, 2020 16:28:18 GMT
There are a lot of journalists who repeat every Govt line, even when it contradicts the previous line; and the Mail today is virtually giving the full Easter He is risen treatment for Johnson.
And the journalists questioning the Govt on this are only echoing what people who actually work in the NHS have been saying for weeks: they don't have PPE and other equipment where it is needed. Patel's non-apology for the lack - "I'm sorry if you feel that" - was a disgrace.
If they'd only show a bit of humility and admit that they cocked up: but but all they say is that they've done everything right.
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Post by aubrey on Apr 12, 2020 17:19:57 GMT
And he was warned about promiscuously shaking hands but he still carried on doing it: and he even boasted about it, as if he thought only other people, lesser people, got sick but he'd be all right because he always had been in the past.
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Post by jonjel on Apr 12, 2020 17:45:21 GMT
And he was warned about promiscuously shaking hands but he still carried on doing it: and he even boasted about it, as if he thought only other people, lesser people, got sick but he'd be all right because he always had been in the past. Not true! |
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Post by aubrey on Apr 12, 2020 18:14:47 GMT
And he was warned about promiscuously shaking hands but he still carried on doing it: and he even boasted about it, as if he thought only other people, lesser people, got sick but he'd be all right because he always had been in the past. Not true!
I saw him doing it, JJ. He was at a hospital and he said he'd been shaking people's hands there and that there were some Covid 19 patients there (though that bit was apparently made up).
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Post by aubrey on Apr 12, 2020 18:15:34 GMT
Pro-Boris Russian Troll, slightly more obvious than usual:
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Post by jimmy20 on Apr 13, 2020 7:34:05 GMT
Of course bad news was supressed, just the same as when the Nazi troops retreated from Moscow and died of cold and hunger in their tens of thousands. They had in fact got as far as the tram tracks on the outskirts of Moscow. Joyce was full of it when they were sweeping across Russia, but not when some of the poor buggers tried to make it home.
I don't think much if any of the facts on C19 are being supressed here. The difference is a lot of so called journalists without any scientific background or understanding are criticising the government at every possible opportunity, largely from a political standpoint. Lest they forget people here have quite long memories, as can be seen from the sale of The Sun in the Liverpool area after they published false information about the causes of Hillsborough. Hows about the line that Johnson was doing so well in hospital, later revealed that he was at deaths door Hows about the line that there are adequate stocks of PPE and nobody is without yet journalists are regularly contacted by NHS sating that they haven't got any. The Royal College of Nurses has advised nurses to stop treating patients if they haven't got PPE Lies, lies and damned lies, it's a good job the media are holding them to account |
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Post by jimmy20 on Apr 13, 2020 7:35:58 GMT
I saw him doing it, JJ. He was at a hospital and he said he'd been shaking people's hands there and that there were some Covid 19 patients there (though that bit was apparently made up).
Wasn't he gladhanding at the Commonwealth service? |
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Post by jimmy20 on Apr 13, 2020 7:48:04 GMT
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