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Post by jonjel on Apr 6, 2020 13:48:50 GMT
I think Raab is in charge while Boris is ill, but I really don't know. Government is more than just one person and there is a whole host of people behind the scenes. As for Cummings, I think he is well past his sell by date. And we all hope the outcome for Boris is good, so HM Queen appointing a successor will not happen. If it did happen, there would be a way found I am sure. I tried to imagine the "kissing of hands" electronically I think we have to kiss everything remotely interesting electronically these days Jimmy, and the old expression 'I would not touch her with a 6' pole' is starting to make sense!
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Post by honeybear on Apr 21, 2020 6:26:17 GMT
Everything unravels with almost indecent speed. After a brush with death, the prime minister is still recovering at Chequers when one of his many supportive newspapers drops a grenade straight down his Elizabethan chimney. No period of grace and convalescence: the Sunday Times didn’t even wait for him to stumble back to Downing Street before firing off its devastating attack on his cavalier incompetence over the coronavirus outbreak.
What makes the insiders’ account so devastating is that it chimes with everything everyone already knows about Boris Johnson’s character. An unnamed “senior adviser” to Downing Street “broke ranks” to say: “What you learn about Boris was he didn’t chair any meetings. He liked his country breaks. He didn’t work weekends. It was like working for an old-fashioned chief executive in a local authority 20 years ago. There was a real sense that he didn’t do urgent crisis planning. It was exactly like people feared he would be.”
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Post by ARENA on Apr 21, 2020 6:28:20 GMT
Surprise, surprise.
This is where those who voted for him fall silent.
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Post by honeybear on Apr 21, 2020 7:06:10 GMT
Clowns can be very entertaining but don't make good ring-masters.
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Post by jimmy20 on Apr 21, 2020 7:37:27 GMT
He wanted to be compared to Churchill, in fact he is more like Chamberlain The virtual Parliament open today, I think the government will get some stick
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Post by jonjel on Apr 21, 2020 10:22:40 GMT
Surprise, surprise. This is where those who voted for him fall silent. No they don't. The man has been in intensive care but the detractors have their knives out. Some of you may want to read this before instantly believing every word the Sunday Times printed. Worth reading all of it.
In an unprecedented situation the government will get some things wrong. What matters is that they get most things right, and however unpalatable that might be, I think they are getting most things right. My business has without question been damaged, I am not blaming the government for that. Indeed I am thanking the government for all the support they have given me and many millions of other small businesses.
www.politicshome.com/news/article/number-10-accuses-sunday-times-of-falsehoods-and-errors-after-claim-government-too-slow-to-act-on-coronavirus
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Post by honeybear on Apr 21, 2020 11:14:19 GMT
No comment
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Post by aubrey on Apr 21, 2020 11:48:07 GMT
This person does not exist (the name of the woman in the picture is Mia), and was one of 128 bot accounts tweeting support for whatever Govt policy was being pushed that day. At least 40 of the accounts used images of real NHS staff. All 128 disappeared at the same time.
Screenshot:
Fighting a propaganda war as the same time as a pandemic.
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Post by jimmy20 on Apr 21, 2020 12:37:59 GMT
Surprise, surprise. This is where those who voted for him fall silent. No they don't. The man has been in intensive care but the detractors have their knives out. Some of you may want to read this before instantly believing every word the Sunday Times printed. Worth reading all of it.
In an unprecedented situation the government will get some things wrong. What matters is that they get most things right, and however unpalatable that might be, I think they are getting most things right. My business has without question been damaged, I am not blaming the government for that. Indeed I am thanking the government for all the support they have given me and many millions of other small businesses.
www.politicshome.com/news/article/number-10-accuses-sunday-times-of-falsehoods-and-errors-after-claim-government-too-slow-to-act-on-coronavirus
I'm struggling to think of anything Johnson's government has done right. Their refusal to adopt tough distancing policies from the off, until circumstances forced their hand too late, has caused over 16,000 deaths in the UK to date. A figure that does not include care home and community care residents, hidden for obvious reasons Johnson is out of his depth, he should seize the opportunity given by his illness and do a MacMillan who stood down early using illness as the reason but in fact he too had lost control
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Post by jonjel on Apr 21, 2020 12:57:04 GMT
Let me get this right.
You are saying it is the government that ahs caused some 16000 deaths?
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Post by aubrey on Apr 21, 2020 14:19:59 GMT
Let me get this right.
You are saying it is the government that ahs caused some 16000 deaths?
No; but they have got a lot of things wrong and their only answer to criticism, or to suggestions of how they might do things differently, or to offers of help, is to set an army of trolls against whoever it is, trolls that are then amplified by Tory politicians (see the reaction to Keir Starmer's question about the process of ending the shut down, which pretended from the first that he had asked for a timetable).
Of course, there is ample protective equipment, and if any NHS worker points out a lack, then they will be piled on with messages pointing out that they once liked a remain tweet, or whatever it is, or voted Labour: no one who is not a fully paid-up Tory supporter is allowed to question the Govt's handling of the crisis because they're obviously only trying to score political points.
This is fighting a virus with propaganda: if it looks like your winning that's all that matters.
Three and a half years ago the Govt ran a test to see if the country could cope with a pandemic; the results showed that we were woefully unprepared, but the only reaction was to ignore and classify the report.
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Post by jimmy20 on Apr 21, 2020 14:23:27 GMT
Let me get this right.
You are saying it is the government that ahs caused some 16000 deaths? Yes Had they acted earlier and introduced tough measures people would not have dies Perfect example - New Zealand and Taiwan who did introduce very tough controls with very few deaths.Notably introducing controls at borders where new arrivals went into quarantine for a fortnight. Here there are still no checks at the likes of Heathrow where arrivals from the USA for example are waved through
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Post by aubrey on Apr 21, 2020 14:29:12 GMT
At the moment it feels like there's no one in charge and everyone's just running about making up stuff to tell the media - ministers no one has heard of being sent to the BBC to explain why a delivery hasn't come yet, and why it was promised on Sunday when it was known it wouldn't come then.
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Post by jonjel on Apr 22, 2020 10:49:08 GMT
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Post by ARENA on Apr 22, 2020 11:00:21 GMT
What do you expect from a far right wing blogger.
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