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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2016 8:38:52 GMT
"An 11-year-old girl with a neurological disability was handcuffed and put in leg restraints while being held in custody, the police watchdog has found.
The girl was detained for a total of 60 hours without an appropriate adult by Sussex Police.
A number of officers and staff members had a case to answer for misconduct, the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) said.
Sussex Police said it would respond to any "new learning" identified."
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-36472234
It is all very well to criticise the actions of the police in instances like this but nobody seems to suggest what else can they do when faced with someone who is at risk to themselves and others - a child or an adult. You only have to watch programmes such as "24 Hours In Police Custody" to see the calm way the officers react to the most disgusting and disgraceful behaviour of some in custody (Ok, I accept there is a lot of acting out because the cameras are there) Another thing, this girl finished up being fostered. Who made the decision given her obvious issues to place her with foster parents
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2016 10:31:02 GMT
I think it IS all very well to criticise the actions of the police in this and other cases. They are professionals doing a difficult job, so should not turn around after an incident like this and say 'lessons will be learned'. It would seem that they totally ignored their own guidelines on how to treat an 11 year old. 60 hours without an appropriate adult being present? Regardless of whether the girl was being difficult, or a complete pain in the arse they had a duty of care to her which they totally ignored.
I saw footage of the way the police behaved in the case of the poor bugger who was eventually murdered in Bristol. Absolutely appalling, all he was asking for was some help and protection. From memory his name was Ibrahimi. The police involved were eventually dragged kicking and screaming to court, and quite rightly.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2016 11:35:33 GMT
I think it IS all very well to criticise the actions of the police in this and other cases. They are professionals doing a difficult job, so should not turn around after an incident like this and say 'lessons will be learned'. It would seem that they totally ignored their own guidelines on how to treat an 11 year old. 60 hours without an appropriate adult being present? Regardless of whether the girl was being difficult, or a complete pain in the arse they had a duty of care to her which they totally ignored. I saw footage of the way the police behaved in the case of the poor bugger who was eventually murdered in Bristol. Absolutely appalling, all he was asking for was some help and protection. From memory his name was Ibrahimi. The police involved were eventually dragged kicking and screaming to court, and quite rightly. I wonder if they have guidelines, different forces have their own rules etc. Maybe it's time for a national police force and get rid of all these assorted chief constables, their assistants, and assistant's assistants, and Police Commissioners. These days crime is not restricted to County boundaries, and criminals are very mobile |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2016 11:41:56 GMT
They do have national guidelines Gus. The other points you made are a different issue, a lot of which I agree with.
Yes it is a damned difficult job which I would not want to do as you are often dealing with bloody minded drunks and some pretty disgusting people, but they knew that when they signed up. The crap the police have to put up with goes with the territory.You don't apply for a job as a scaffolder if you are afraid of heights.
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Post by anybody on Jun 8, 2016 14:11:22 GMT
I blame the EU!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2016 14:58:45 GMT
I don't think the "compensation culture" helps, people always seem to be looking for anyway to make a claim
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