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Post by ARENA on Oct 19, 2016 8:03:20 GMT
Margaret Thatcher has pipped David Cameron to be voted Britain’s worst Prime Minister of the past 100 years.
Historians voted by 24% to 22% to put Thatcher in first place for her “destruction” of parts of British society.
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Post by anybody on Oct 19, 2016 8:29:04 GMT
I get the feeling Theresa May will feature high on that list, one day.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 9:06:41 GMT
Margaret Thatcher has pipped David Cameron to be voted Britain’s worst Prime Minister of the past 100 years. Historians voted by 24% to 22% to put Thatcher in first place for her “destruction” of parts of British society. Were the historians part of the Arthur Scargill Preservation Society?
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Post by hild1066 on Oct 19, 2016 12:18:59 GMT
Margaret Thatcher has pipped David Cameron to be voted Britain’s worst Prime Minister of the past 100 years. Historians voted by 24% to 22% to put Thatcher in first place for her “destruction” of parts of British society. Were the historians part of the Arthur Scargill Preservation Society? Nope just a decent percentage of them from places that were affected I would say. Can't say her name around here without someone shouting "Burn the Witch"
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Post by lana on Oct 19, 2016 15:10:13 GMT
Thoroughly deserved!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 16:34:06 GMT
It always amazes me how Margaret Thatcher has become such a hate figure, I think people have forgotten the dire state the Country was in when she took office. A significant difference when she left office
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Post by aubrey on Oct 19, 2016 17:41:53 GMT
That would have happened anyway; and the country was in a state - the strikes over the winter (which weren't anything like as bad as the Tories made out for the next 20+ years) came about because Labour were doing a Tory-lite, and stopping public workers on low wages from having much of a (or any) rise.
And most people did not have to pay for Thatcherism: all it was, was a massive redistribution of wealth (the kind that the right favour: [to the wealthy, instead of from. But the people who did pay, paid a lot, and are still paying.
Thatcher was bad intentionally; Cameron was just an incompetent opportunist: there was no need other than to get him out of a temporary fix, to promise a vote on Europe: and then, having promised it, to have fulfilled the promise. He promised, for instance that there would be no top-down reorganisation of the NHS, and as soon as the Tories won, along came the top-down reorganisation...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 19:45:02 GMT
That would have happened anyway; and the country was in a state - the strikes over the winter (which weren't anything like as bad as the Tories made out for the next 20+ years) came about because Labour were doing a Tory-lite, and stopping public workers on low wages from having much of a (or any) rise. And most people did not have to pay for Thatcherism: all it was, was a massive redistribution of wealth (the kind that the right favour: [to the wealthy, instead of from. But the people who did pay, paid a lot, and are still paying. Thatcher was bad intentionally; Cameron was just an incompetent opportunist: there was no need other than to get him out of a temporary fix, to promise a vote on Europe: and then, having promised it, to have fulfilled the promise. He promised, for instance that there would be no top-down reorganisation of the NHS, and as soon as the Tories won, along came the top-down reorganisation... My impression is that the Country is better off under the Tories, even under Tony Blair who pursued similar policies to Mrs T My father was a Labour supporter all his life, and a trade union shop steward. In 1979 he voted for Mrs T because he saw the unions were getting too big for their boots
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Post by marispiper on Oct 19, 2016 21:09:26 GMT
Cameron was hopeless and I blame him for the current turmoil. The man had no aim or ambition...there was nothing he was fired up to do. And anyone who says they don't intend to serve another term is automatically in the cage labelled 'lame duck'
The legacy of Thatcher is Thatcherism. Her reign spawned a whole culture of getting rich quick, preferably without having to do much, which has continued to this day.
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Post by lana on Oct 20, 2016 6:52:16 GMT
It always amazes me how Margaret Thatcher has become such a hate figure, I think people have forgotten the dire state the Country was in when she took office. A significant difference when she left office Always was as far as I'm concerned. Dreadful woman.
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Post by ARENA on Oct 20, 2016 8:40:04 GMT
Watch, Victorian Slums, to see what Britain was like pre-trade unions and you'll get a fair idea of the Conservative ideal.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 9:17:44 GMT
Watch, Victorian Slums, to see what Britain was like pre-trade unions and you'll get a fair idea of the Conservative ideal. You don't need to watch Victorian Slums to get the drift of life under the trade unions Some of us remember life under the radical socialists Atlee and Co, and the unions in the 70s The Conservative ideal was probably best illustrated under Harold MacMillan in the 60s when we literally "Never had it so good", which MT continued BTW I am not some died in the wool Tory, I always vote for who I think would be best for the Country. Last time I voted for Ed Miliband
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