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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2016 17:45:42 GMT
"The teenager, who cannot be named, was 14 when she and her boyfriend stabbed Elizabeth Edwards, 49, and her daughter, Katie, 13, as they slept at their home in Spalding, Lincolnshire."
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-37693103
So once again we have children committing awful crimes yet cannot be named in public I say, if they are old enough to do something as heinous as this pair they are old enough to be named. They are almost being rewarded for their crime |
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Post by marispiper on Oct 18, 2016 21:47:20 GMT
Well, they may be named when they are sentenced. We will see.
Usually, one can deduce the motive for planned murder (jealousy, rage, revenge) these two just wanted to murder 'someone' !
It is beyond comprehension.
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Post by aubrey on Oct 19, 2016 7:56:17 GMT
What would naming them do? Except give some psychos someone to look for when they get out of (or go into) prison.
That was what was weird about the Jamie Bulger case - those people so angry about two child killers that they wanted to kill a couple of children themselves.
I don't see how anyone is being rewarded here.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 9:22:34 GMT
What would naming them do? Except give some psychos someone to look for when they get out of (or go into) prison. That was what was weird about the Jamie Bulger case - those people so angry about two child killers that they wanted to kill a couple of children themselves. I don't see how anyone is being rewarded here. Justice not only has to be done, it has to be seen to be done I have no doubt these children come from awful backgrounds, to be granted anonymity makes them someone special and they will now live in comparative luxury. I have seen the secure accommodation for children, approved school or Borstal it ain't I know of the son of a family who fostered a teenager, and who was showered with clothing and all sorts of goodies. The son enquired what he had to do to be taken into Care
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Post by aubrey on Oct 19, 2016 16:34:19 GMT
You can't name kids though: she's 14: that's not grown up, or anything like. She will go into adult gaol in 4 years, and then released after a few more; and then there will be some fine upstanding citizens who will want to make sure that she will never do it again: like they did with the Bulger pair.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 17:24:08 GMT
You can't name kids though: she's 14: that's not grown up, or anything like. She will go into adult gaol in 4 years, and then released after a few more; and then there will be some fine upstanding citizens who will want to make sure that she will never do it again: like they did with the Bulger pair. I suggest that you do some research on the "Bulger pair" |
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Post by aubrey on Oct 19, 2016 17:34:33 GMT
I know: but there were people who would have either killed them, or some them some serious harm if they had know who and where they were: people who hate child killers so much that they would become child killers themselves, just to get some sort of revenge.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 9:19:57 GMT
I know: but there were people who would have either killed them, or some them some serious harm if they had know who and where they were: people who hate child killers so much that they would become child killers themselves, just to get some sort of revenge. Simplest answer, bring back capital punishment for killers as evil as this pair clearly are |
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Post by aubrey on Oct 20, 2016 10:22:40 GMT
You want to kill children now?
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Post by norty on Oct 20, 2016 11:18:13 GMT
Unbelievable! The reason that children cannot have their name published when they've committed a crime is because they are children. They need to be protected no matter the crime that they have committed. You cannot convict children using adult laws, as they clearly aren't and don't have the same cognitive maturity that is expected with adults.
When a child is imprisoned, they will receive speacialst help that will enable them to face up to their crime, mature, learn life skills which will hopefully on release allow them to live normally, or as normally as possible when people are baying for their blood.
If they've done the time....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 14:40:36 GMT
Unbelievable! The reason that children cannot have their name published when they've committed a crime is because they are children. They need to be protected no matter the crime that they have committed. You cannot convict children using adult laws, as they clearly aren't and don't have the same cognitive maturity that is expected with adults. When a child is imprisoned, they will receive speacialst help that will enable them to face up to their crime, mature, learn life skills which will hopefully on release allow them to live normally, or as normally as possible when people are baying for their blood. If they've done the time.... "Children" who have committed the most evil crime? ?? If they are old enough to do this they are no longer children in my eyes
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Post by marispiper on Oct 20, 2016 14:45:36 GMT
You should acquaint yourself with the upbringing the girl had....
It's no wonder she's dysfunctional.
Prison now.
I would say she stands NO chance.
Tragedy all round...murderers and victims.
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Post by marispiper on Oct 20, 2016 15:01:53 GMT
As for naming these two, in what way has it benefitted us to know the names of James Bulger's killers?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 17:38:05 GMT
You should acquaint yourself with the upbringing the girl had.... It's no wonder she's dysfunctional. Prison now. I would say she stands NO chance. Tragedy all round...murderers and victims. I have heard all the excuses over the years from so called experts who will congregate to "assist" this girl and boy. We have discussed elsewhere the billions that Cameron wasted assisting such families - a waste of money. You yourself have posted about teaching pupils who needed help. Did it work What the present situation effectively means is that lots of money will be spent trying to sort this pair out whilst they are in custody, and then protecting them for the rest of their lives Ian Huntley's girl friend who now lives not far from me is another with anonymity and protection, another drain on our precious resources. I would choose to spend such resources on more social or health care - drip in the ocean maybe but a lot of drips can soon form a puddle
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 17:39:25 GMT
As for naming these two, in what way has it benefitted us to know the names of James Bulger's killers? Well we now know one thanks to our vigilant "right wing press" who have revealed his antics after many years of help from experts |
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