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Post by marispiper on Aug 8, 2016 8:17:10 GMT
I didn't know whether to put this under Grumblaria (already irritated by that) but since this thread only concerns words and expressions, I've put it here.
What are the grammar errors that drive you mad?
The first one I would mention (as you hear it all the time in advertisements) is about anything you get "for free"... You can get something for nothing, you can get something free(of charge) but NOT "for free" Grrrrr…...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 9:07:14 GMT
Does grammar really matter anymore? I have argued this elsewhere with people who insist that society will collapse if strict grammar rules are not maintained.. I call them grammorticians Communication is what is of paramount importance and how it is done doesn't matter. When you look at text speak for example it is a simple way of communicating, totally beyond me and incomprehensible but understandable to those who use it I would argue that correct grammar is a form of elitism and snobbery
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Post by ARENA on Aug 8, 2016 9:30:15 GMT
Does grammar really matter anymore? I have argued this elsewhere with people who insist that society will collapse if strict grammar rules are not maintained.. I call them grammorticians Communication is what is of paramount importance and how it is done doesn't matter. When you look at text speak for example it is a simple way of communicating, totally beyond me and incomprehensible but understandable to those who use it I would argue that correct grammar is a form of elitism and snobbery Language is/has always been fluid and is created by the people, not a group at Words Inc. Change has been going on since we first 'Ugged' at each other and will continue to do so. I have been researching English for many years.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 9:51:45 GMT
Does grammar really matter anymore? I have argued this elsewhere with people who insist that society will collapse if strict grammar rules are not maintained.. I call them grammorticians Communication is what is of paramount importance and how it is done doesn't matter. When you look at text speak for example it is a simple way of communicating, totally beyond me and incomprehensible but understandable to those who use it I would argue that correct grammar is a form of elitism and snobbery That is the sort of attitude up with which we will not put!
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Post by ARENA on Aug 8, 2016 10:43:30 GMT
Does grammar really matter anymore? I have argued this elsewhere with people who insist that society will collapse if strict grammar rules are not maintained.. I call them grammorticians Communication is what is of paramount importance and how it is done doesn't matter. When you look at text speak for example it is a simple way of communicating, totally beyond me and incomprehensible but understandable to those who use it I would argue that correct grammar is a form of elitism and snobbery That is the sort of attitude up with which we will not put! Very funny Jonjel but hardly an example of usage and ab-usage.
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Post by goldelox on Aug 8, 2016 11:30:27 GMT
My grandmother disliked the expressions 'guy' and 'kid'. I can hear her saying, "Kid? Is it a goat"!
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Post by marispiper on Aug 8, 2016 12:05:05 GMT
Grammar...elitist? No, simply correct use of our language, which, incidentally, pupils are now tested on at primary and secondary level. Some years back, very few marks in GCSE English were awarded for spelling and grammar now it's much higher - in addition other subjects (eg History, Geography, RE etc) also carry marks for grammar and spelling.
Many teachers not taught grammar when it was out of fashion, now have to swot to teach it!
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Post by marispiper on Aug 8, 2016 12:06:39 GMT
That is the sort of attitude up with which we will not put! Very funny Jonjel but hardly an example of usage and ab-usage. But a grammatically correct sentence.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 13:34:16 GMT
Very funny Jonjel but hardly an example of usage and ab-usage. But a grammatically correct sentence. Which is why I wrote it as such. But back on track, we all get lazy and sloppy but I do take some pride in getting important stuff correct, which means I look over it more than once. I am truly appalled at some of the e-mails I get from graduates and even senior people within organisations where I need to read it two or three times to understand what is being said. And as for the spelling and punctuation, well that sometimes beggars belief. The kind of thing that grates is when people say or indeed write things like 'off of' and 'different to'. I once dealt with a chap who was a real pedant, and I knew him quite well. This was in the days of fax. He would go through a fax and mark the mistakes spello's and typo's with a pen, then hand write his reply on the bottom. One day I got (sorry, became!) incensed at this and wrote on a fax, in large capitals with a felt tip 'How dare you have the gall to correct spelling and grammar on what I write. Did you not understand what I was saying or does your lack of manners override everything' It went to his main office for everyone to read and he was a little bit upset! That was the intention.
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Post by lana on Aug 8, 2016 13:38:43 GMT
My grandmother disliked the expressions 'guy' and 'kid'. I can hear her saying, "Kid? Is it a goat"! I HATE the word kid when used for a child... ..but everyone seems to use it these days.
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Post by marispiper on Aug 8, 2016 14:02:41 GMT
Jonjel - I am not as bad as him...or maybe I am! Guess you have been on holiday - or business is really good.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 14:13:50 GMT
Jonjel - I am not as bad as him...or maybe I am! Guess you have been on holiday - or business is really good. If you call Norfolk a holiday, then guilty as charged!
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Post by marispiper on Aug 8, 2016 14:42:14 GMT
Jonjel - I am not as bad as him...or maybe I am! Guess you have been on holiday - or business is really good. If you call Norfolk a holiday, then guilty as charged! It is to me!
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Post by ARENA on Aug 8, 2016 15:02:12 GMT
From Old Norse kith, of Germanic origin; related to German Kitze.
Long before it was applied to young goats.
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Post by lana on Aug 8, 2016 16:23:29 GMT
Actually I knew that but it doesn't stop me hating it when children are called kids.
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