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Post by marispiper on Aug 21, 2016 17:50:34 GMT
"Its only a whimsical notion..." a great line 😁
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Post by lana on Aug 21, 2016 19:28:39 GMT
More medals for our GB olympians taking our total past the London 2012 haul. Fantastic effort! Must put a favourite song of mine on this thread. Now you come to mention it, I'm surprised (in retrospect) that the coverage didn't use that (or at least that I never heard it). Too melancholic maybe.Could be... Hard luck,Joe...you were my winner!
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Post by marispiper on Aug 22, 2016 7:34:55 GMT
Woke up to...not jubilation about our success at the games...no...just moans/outcry about the cost! We've seen brilliant competitors, loving their sport, lifting our spirits time and time again. And fantastic role models for young people who will want to emulate them. Bargain, I think!
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Post by marispiper on Aug 22, 2016 9:39:47 GMT
Also, each event was FAIR (and scrutinised)! True sport and sportsmanship on show. Each medal deserved. I've loved it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 10:16:27 GMT
Woke up to...not jubilation about our success at the games...no...just moans/outcry about the cost! We've seen brilliant competitors, loving their sport, lifting our spirits time and time again. And fantastic role models for young people who will want to emulate them. Bargain, I think! Absolutely spot on. The bleating brigade that have probably never ever put on a pair of running shoes (can't afford it on benefits like) will always moan about the cost of everything but the value of nothing, and always crow at failure when they can. All the people participating, winners and also ran's alike have spent thousands of hours sweating, training, overcoming pain and injury foregoing all the things we regard as normal, like a few beers on occasion, but nevertheless dedicated and even obsessed by what they do. They have given many people enormous pleasure just watching the very best of the best. Well done team GB, and well done everyone.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 11:15:14 GMT
Woke up to...not jubilation about our success at the games...no...just moans/outcry about the cost! We've seen brilliant competitors, loving their sport, lifting our spirits time and time again. And fantastic role models for young people who will want to emulate them. Bargain, I think! That would be like all those predicted to be inspired to take up some sporting activity after London 2012. Participation has in fact fallen since. The money invested by Sport UK, in fact to buy medals actually, would have been better spent on the NHS to benefit everybody
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 13:34:58 GMT
Woke up to...not jubilation about our success at the games...no...just moans/outcry about the cost! We've seen brilliant competitors, loving their sport, lifting our spirits time and time again. And fantastic role models for young people who will want to emulate them. Bargain, I think! That would be like all those predicted to be inspired to take up some sporting activity after London 2012. Participation has in fact fallen since. The money invested by Sport UK, in fact to buy medals actually, would have been better spent on the NHS to benefit everybodyI totally and absolutely disagree with you Gus. Who inspired this group of athletes? Previous athletes. And this group will inspire the next. Not everyone will win medals, a minute fraction of one per cent of all athletes will ever get to an Olympics, but all will benefit. You could look at many projects and come out with the stock answer 'you would have been better off spending on the NHS' That would include art galleries, public statues, the restoration of important buildings, the list is endless. In my view it was a very sad day and a big mistake to stop having sport as part of the national curriculum at schools.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 14:07:34 GMT
That would be like all those predicted to be inspired to take up some sporting activity after London 2012. Participation has in fact fallen since. The money invested by Sport UK, in fact to buy medals actually, would have been better spent on the NHS to benefit everybodyI totally and absolutely disagree with you Gus. Who inspired this group of athletes? Previous athletes. And this group will inspire the next. Not everyone will win medals, a minute fraction of one per cent of all athletes will ever get to an Olympics, but all will benefit. You could look at many projects and come out with the stock answer 'you would have been better off spending on the NHS' That would include art galleries, public statues, the restoration of important buildings, the list is endless. In my view it was a very sad day and a big mistake to stop having sport as part of the national curriculum at schools. I expect the medalists will be delighted with your support, as they jet home to sign their next advertising/sponsorship deals. Sport, sadly, is now big business The government has announced that there will be no cap on honours following the Games. Joe Blogs is in the running for a knighthood after successfully watching all events, repeats, and comments on the TV. Sadly a lady narrowly missed out because she fell asleep during a transmission
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 14:13:06 GMT
I totally and absolutely disagree with you Gus. Who inspired this group of athletes? Previous athletes. And this group will inspire the next. Not everyone will win medals, a minute fraction of one per cent of all athletes will ever get to an Olympics, but all will benefit. You could look at many projects and come out with the stock answer 'you would have been better off spending on the NHS' That would include art galleries, public statues, the restoration of important buildings, the list is endless. In my view it was a very sad day and a big mistake to stop having sport as part of the national curriculum at schools. I expect the medalists will be delighted with your support, as they jet home to sign their next advertising/sponsorship deals. Sport, sadly, is now big business The government has announced that there will be no cap on honours following the Games. Joe Blogs is in the running for a knighthood after successfully watching all events, repeats, and comments on the TV. Sadly a lady narrowly missed out because she fell asleep during a transmission
What is your problem with sport being big business? Because that awful dirty stuff money is involved? Money that 'they' have and you don't? They have spent most of their lives working towards it. OK, not work with a pick and shovel but work nevertheless, and I see little difference in that or a talented musician spending thousands of hours practicing, to be rewarded in the end.
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Post by marispiper on Aug 22, 2016 14:43:34 GMT
Why look at the spend? Surely we should look at the return, shouldn't we? For two weeks of great (and I mean great) sport FROM, and FOR, the whole nation, I would say it's absolutely worth it! We know that the lottery funded part, but I read today that the UK taxpayer's contribution works out to £1.09 for the Rio games. I don't know of any other quid's worth of pleasure that lasts a fortnight 😁
The other moan about the wealth of athletes..."Bolt Hollywood beckons/advertising deals"... Why else would he get these offers other than for being an OUTSTANDING athlete??? What do you expect him to do? Slink off back to Jamaica and obscurity. The man's a legend!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 15:36:11 GMT
Why look at the spend? Surely we should look at the return, shouldn't we? For two weeks of great (and I mean great) sport FROM, and FOR, the whole nation, I would say it's absolutely worth it! We know that the lottery funded part, but I read today that the UK taxpayer's contribution works out to £1.09 for the Rio games. I don't know of any other quid's worth of pleasure that lasts a fortnight 😁 The other moan about the wealth of athletes..."Bolt Hollywood beckons/advertising deals"... Why else would he get these offers other than for being an OUTSTANDING athlete??? What do you expect him to do? Slink off back to Jamaica and obscurity. The man's a legend! Indeed so Marispiper. Contrast that with some of the 'celebs' who are famous for a lunchtime, or because they have huge tits who seem to rake it in. Many of them without an ounce of talent.
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Post by HILD on Aug 22, 2016 16:00:12 GMT
Why look at the spend? Surely we should look at the return, shouldn't we? For two weeks of great (and I mean great) sport FROM, and FOR, the whole nation, I would say it's absolutely worth it! We know that the lottery funded part, but I read today that the UK taxpayer's contribution works out to £1.09 for the Rio games. I don't know of any other quid's worth of pleasure that lasts a fortnight 😁 The other moan about the wealth of athletes..."Bolt Hollywood beckons/advertising deals"... Why else would he get these offers other than for being an OUTSTANDING athlete??? What do you expect him to do? Slink off back to Jamaica and obscurity. The man's a legend! I think £1.09 is a bargain. It is gambling that covers the cost of most of it and I don't want gambling money covering the NHS costs. Someone said it costs £3M to get a gold medal in cycling, but they did not say over how long, if it is just over the fortnight that's too much, but if it is a 10 year investment in someone then fair enough. Sport doesn't just give us enjoyment it employs a lot of people. Perhaps the BBC could cut down on a few presenters, did we need them all, but that argument comes up time and again and they don't get paid more for going to the Olympics they are either on a contract or have sub-contracted themselves to the BBC for a fee and let's face it we do need someone telling us what is happening sometimes. Don't know that we needed three presenters for the gymnastics but I guess someone needs a break etc. All told, well done, brilliantly done.
I have one measly grumble. If you are a British athlete/sportsperson who received British funding to achieve your dreams, you achieve them and it makes you famous and therefore potentially makes you wealthy is it ethical to then become a tax exile and not contribute back into the system that supported you. Perhaps a payback system should operate, you know a bit like a student loan, once you earn over X you will start to pay back your funding etc. I don't mean a small wage I am suggesting people earning over let's say £50K in endorsements, columns, sports training, whatever. It would seem pretty fair to me as not all those who won a medal will earn fortunes and some who didn't may go on to a lucrative living. If we expect students to pay back why not these people too.
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Post by marispiper on Aug 22, 2016 16:15:48 GMT
Good point Hild. British should mean contributing to our country in every way.
As for the BBC, I reckon they could've left John Inverdale at home. Saw on Twitter somebody suggested the Beeb do an Olympic special to correct all the Inverdale mistakes/gaffes😁
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 17:47:50 GMT
Why look at the spend? Surely we should look at the return, shouldn't we? For two weeks of great (and I mean great) sport FROM, and FOR, the whole nation, I would say it's absolutely worth it! We know that the lottery funded part, but I read today that the UK taxpayer's contribution works out to £1.09 for the Rio games. I don't know of any other quid's worth of pleasure that lasts a fortnight 😁 The other moan about the wealth of athletes..."Bolt Hollywood beckons/advertising deals"... Why else would he get these offers other than for being an OUTSTANDING athlete??? What do you expect him to do? Slink off back to Jamaica and obscurity. The man's a legend! I think £1.09 is a bargain. It is gambling that covers the cost of most of it and I don't want gambling money covering the NHS costs. Someone said it costs £3M to get a gold medal in cycling, but they did not say over how long, if it is just over the fortnight that's too much, but if it is a 10 year investment in someone then fair enough. Sport doesn't just give us enjoyment it employs a lot of people. Perhaps the BBC could cut down on a few presenters, did we need them all, but that argument comes up time and again and they don't get paid more for going to the Olympics they are either on a contract or have sub-contracted themselves to the BBC for a fee and let's face it we do need someone telling us what is happening sometimes. Don't know that we needed three presenters for the gymnastics but I guess someone needs a break etc. All told, well done, brilliantly done.
I have one measly grumble. If you are a British athlete/sportsperson who received British funding to achieve your dreams, you achieve them and it makes you famous and therefore potentially makes you wealthy is it ethical to then become a tax exile and not contribute back into the system that supported you. Perhaps a payback system should operate, you know a bit like a student loan, once you earn over X you will start to pay back your funding etc. I don't mean a small wage I am suggesting people earning over let's say £50K in endorsements, columns, sports training, whatever. It would seem pretty fair to me as not all those who won a medal will earn fortunes and some who didn't may go on to a lucrative living. If we expect students to pay back why not these people too
I think if you are living in agony or pain whilst waiting on a list for a hip/knee replacement, you would question the allocation of funds. Look at the numbers of backroom people associated with Sport UK, there are probably more of them than athletes. And funding for Paralympics is minimal, but they are not superstars with lucrative sponsorship/advertising contracts Good idea that they repay the investment like students can't see it happening though especially now when they are enjoying their five minutes of fame. I never understood how the Lottery could justify granting the Royal Opera House £78 million for the benefit of a tiny elitist minority. people who could probably well afford to pay for it themselves I bet if a referendum was held on if all the Lottery proceeds were allocated to the NHS there would be a huge majority in favour
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