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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 12:36:25 GMT
In the properties vacated by those immigrants here who may be thrown out Asked proper questions and all you seem to get is jokey answers. SaveIt may be anything but "jokey"
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Post by marispiper on Jul 5, 2016 13:09:16 GMT
Arena: OMG I wonder why they labelled that clip 'funny' ? That was scary - in the vacuum we have at the moment, the far right will only proliferate.
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Post by marispiper on Jul 5, 2016 13:20:50 GMT
Just been to see my Italian neighbours...first time I've spoken to the husband since the referendum. He feels completely unsettled and insecure, with a question mark over the future...two little girls, big mortgage. To make things worse, as he is a lecturer at a university, funding from the EU is now under threat, so he said even if they can stay, his job is uncertain and it also feels demeaning to be used as a bargaining tool by May.
Poor bloke...that's before we even got onto the football!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 13:32:36 GMT
Just been to see my Italian neighbours...first time I've spoken to the husband since the referendum. He feels completely unsettled and insecure, with a question mark over the future...two little girls, big mortgage. To make things worse, as he is a lecturer at a university, funding from the EU is now under threat, so he said even if they can stay, his job is uncertain and it also feels demeaning to be used as a bargaining tool by May. Poor bloke...that's before we even got onto the football! Someone can explain to me because I really don't understand. We hear many people telling us that funding for this or that or whatever will be cut because the EU will not be providing the funds. Education Science whatever. But I thought the money that came back was part of the rebate? Whether we pay the EU 350million a week a month or whatever they do not as far as I understand it pay any more back than a proportion of that. And the payback I thought had conditions attached. I am not point scoring, I really want someone with knowledge as opposed to opinion to give me the lowdown on this.
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Post by goldelox on Jul 5, 2016 14:56:01 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 15:14:48 GMT
No, not if you want the truth. Looking at that paper funding us in the form or loans and grants. Loans have to be paid back. And as far as I am aware the grants are from the money already paid in. Some countries are net beneficiaries and some are not.
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Post by marispiper on Jul 5, 2016 15:43:53 GMT
No, not if you want the truth. Looking at that paper funding us in the form or loans and grants. Loans have to be paid back. And as far as I am aware the grants are from the money already paid in. Some countries are net beneficiaries and some are not. These two exchanges only go to show how complex the EU is Jon, and we are learning of ramifications concerning being in/out, we haven't even thought about. I would say us lot on here, probably think/read/digest more than your average but there are still many, many gaps in our knowledge and understanding. I also don't think we 'ought to have known' !!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 16:27:07 GMT
"The Bank of England has warned there is evidence that risks it identified related to Brexit are emerging. In a major report it states: "There is evidence that some risks have begun to crystallise. The current outlook for UK financial stability is challenging." The Bank has eased special capital requirements for banks, potentially freeing up £150bn for lending. Eight major banks have also agreed with George Osborne to provide more lending to households and businesses." www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36712040
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Post by ARENA on Jul 5, 2016 20:37:39 GMT
I feel sorry for people with pension fund dependencies.....they are heading for huge losses but that's only the start. Petrol prices are beginning to rise........
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Post by marispiper on Jul 6, 2016 7:54:28 GMT
I went out last night with members of my Book Group. Three Leave voters all reported vitriol and verbal abuse from friends, yes friends, calling them xenophobic, ruining the country's future &c. They had stopped using Facebook and other social media because the comments are so upsetting.I was stunned.
It just shows how quickly hatred can be whipped up... Remainers portray themselves as the virtuous, Leavers the scorned.
Also, the reasons for votes.. Leavers not migration more democracy, Remain responses varied...sticking with the devil you know, looking after my pension and another, not wanting to have to change my passport!
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Post by marispiper on Jul 6, 2016 8:06:08 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2016 9:04:28 GMT
"Pound Hits New Low On Deepening EU Exit Fears The pound has plumbed new depths against the US dollar as it slid below $1.28 amid intensifying fears over the impact of the vote to leave the EU. It was a new 31-year low for sterling which has already tumbled steeply in the wake of last month's poll result and slipped further, by as much as two cents, in latest overnight trading." news.sky.com/story/1722250/pound-hits-new-low-on-deepening-eu-exit-fears
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Post by goldelox on Jul 6, 2016 12:44:08 GMT
Brexit "problem deniers", read on.
On Monday morning, Markit released its latest set of data on the state of the UK’s construction sector, and to say things didn't look good would be an understatement.
The sector slipped into contraction for the first time since April 2013, hitting just 46.o, a shock fall from an already poor base last month, and the biggest single month fall since 2009. All this helped confirm fears about a coming crash in the UK's construction industry.
Generally speaking, Markit doesn’t make grand proclamations and or use strong language about its data, but on Monday representatives from both Markit and CIPS, which jointly produced the survey, variously said that "the rate of decline was not as sharp as that experienced during the last recession" and called the data "a clear warning flag for the wider post-Brexit economic outlook."
When the best you can pull from a dataset is that it is not quite as bad as during the worst recession since the 1930s, you know things are not looking good.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2016 20:49:16 GMT
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Post by ARENA on Jul 8, 2016 7:10:00 GMT
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