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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 12:51:20 GMT
That sounds like just the sort of stuff the PC crowd churn out The woman I referred to was a highly successful fosterer, she just used common senses - something the PC lot have no grasp pf There's nothing PC about it Bryan, it is basic human decency to treat a vulnerable person with compassion and not as a function. That does not mean that there aren't difficult choices and decisions and that sometimes things have to be done that they may object to, it is about treating someone the way you would like to be treated, it is about caring and if we employed someone who turned out to lack that ability to care and show compassion we would be seriously encouraging them to go and find a job where they didn't need it. Spot on Hild. Yes there was wild speculation in the press about matters to which they could not possibly have been privy, but something must have been seriously wrong. The important thing to understand is the Judge made a removal order from the current foster carer, not a placement order with the grandparents. I have read the full judgement and it is awful to read just a bit of the history of just one desperately dysfunctional family. The Only important person is a little girl who seems to have been a pawn at the disposal of various pretty inadequate and dare I say it uncaring agencies.
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Post by honeybear on Aug 31, 2017 13:17:30 GMT
There's nothing PC about it Bryan, it is basic human decency to treat a vulnerable person with compassion and not as a function. That does not mean that there aren't difficult choices and decisions and that sometimes things have to be done that they may object to, it is about treating someone the way you would like to be treated, it is about caring and if we employed someone who turned out to lack that ability to care and show compassion we would be seriously encouraging them to go and find a job where they didn't need it. Spot on Hild. Yes there was wild speculation in the press about matters to which they could not possibly have been privy, but something must have been seriously wrong. The important thing to understand is the Judge made a removal order from the current foster carer, not a placement order with the grandparents. I have read the full judgement and it is awful to read just a bit of the history of just one desperately dysfunctional family. The Only important person is a little girl who seems to have been a pawn at the disposal of various pretty inadequate and dare I say it uncaring agencies. What a change of tune from the person who started the thread and was adamant it was all true. Save
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 14:22:05 GMT
That sounds like just the sort of stuff the PC crowd churn out The woman I referred to was a highly successful fosterer, she just used common senses - something the PC lot have no grasp pf There's nothing PC about it Bryan, it is basic human decency to treat a vulnerable person with compassion and not as a function. That does not mean that there aren't difficult choices and decisions and that sometimes things have to be done that they may object to, it is about treating someone the way you would like to be treated, it is about caring and if we employed someone who turned out to lack that ability to care and show compassion we would be seriously encouraging them to go and find a job where they didn't need it. The PC attitude is the way they pussyfoot around the so called difficulties You start from the basic tough love approach, set the boundaries and stick to them in which the vulnerable children feel safe and secure, and cared for We never had any physically disabled children simply because we didn't have the facilities or accommodation to cope with their needs. We did however have some who supposedly had any variation of these so called conditions that "experts" like to label such children with. You know what, under our care and regime we treated them like all normal children and they all behaved perfectly. Returned to their parents, or adoption they reverted to their previous behaviour
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 15:20:03 GMT
Spot on Hild. Yes there was wild speculation in the press about matters to which they could not possibly have been privy, but something must have been seriously wrong. The important thing to understand is the Judge made a removal order from the current foster carer, not a placement order with the grandparents. I have read the full judgement and it is awful to read just a bit of the history of just one desperately dysfunctional family. The Only important person is a little girl who seems to have been a pawn at the disposal of various pretty inadequate and dare I say it uncaring agencies. What a change of tune from the person who started the thread and was adamant it was all true. SaveTotally Untrue! I never ever claimed it was all true. I simply argued with those who said it was totally false. It was not.
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Post by marispiper on Aug 31, 2017 17:08:55 GMT
What a change of tune from the person who started the thread and was adamant it was all true. SaveTotally Untrue! I never ever claimed it was all true. I simply argued with those who said it was totally false. It was not. Agree. The story could hardly be placed in the category of 'fake' news.
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Post by maywalk on Sept 4, 2017 17:56:34 GMT
This thread reminds me of hubby and I becoming foster parents to three children (two boys and a girl)for 10months left with us in 1951. We had our own baby too. Hubby was 23 and I was 21 years old. A different world way back then. Quite a story. The girl is a grandmother herself now but she still calls in to see me when she is over here from the Shetland Isles
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2017 8:55:07 GMT
Wow! What an undertaking. My husband and I were both 22 when we married in 1951 and by the end of 1952 we also had a baby. The thought of looking after 3 more children at that time would have been overwhelming. No disposable nappies, terry towelling squares with muslin liners, all needing to be soaked, washed and boiled. To say nothing of the drying . You must have been a wonderful, very young woman to manage all 4 children and care for them so well they return to visit you so many years after. My admiration is enormous. But as you said, it was a different world and you accepted the responsibility.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2017 11:13:49 GMT
Wow! What an undertaking. My husband and I were both 22 when we married in 1951 and by the end of 1952 we also had a baby. The thought of looking after 3 more children at that time would have been overwhelming. No disposable nappies, terry towelling squares with muslin liners, all needing to be soaked, washed and boiled. To say nothing of the drying . You must have been a wonderful, very young woman to manage all 4 children and care for them so well they return to visit you so many years after. My admiration is enormous. But as you said, it was a different world and you accepted the responsibility. Just think of our grand and great grandparents who usually had very big families, sometimes 10 or more children. Very limited contraception then They somehow coped with similar domestic management without modern appliances to help. The so called good old days
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Post by maywalk on Sept 5, 2017 11:31:26 GMT
I wrote the story out for my family whereorwhen because they wanted any tales I could tell them of things that happened many years ago. If you would like to read it or anyone else for that matter I will put it on here but only with permission from Admin . Nothing secret about it because its all true and as I said my foster daughter still calls to see me when over here.Cheers x x
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2017 11:41:01 GMT
Yes please, I am intrigued already, perhaps they were children of a member of your family but if you are happy to share your story, I would love to read it.
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Post by ARENA on Sept 8, 2017 10:59:02 GMT
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Post by maywalk on Sept 9, 2017 18:16:37 GMT
Please forgive me for not calling in before now as I said I would put up the tale about the three fosterchildren. I had a fall and I had my orders to rest up. Anyway feeling better now but I have to warn any who wants to read the tale about the children it can be rather long. If you are still interested just let me know.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 14:14:47 GMT
Please forgive me for not calling in before now as I said I would put up the tale about the three fosterchildren. I had a fall and I had my orders to rest up. Anyway feeling better now but I have to warn any who wants to read the tale about the children it can be rather long. If you are still interested just let me know. Of course we are interested in your story May. Well I am. I am sure it will be full of little fact which make us all think. Sorry about the fall. Hope things that can be mended mend soon.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 18:04:31 GMT
So sorry to hear of your fall Maywalk, they can really shake you as I know only too well. Rest as much as you can. And of course you already know I would very much like like to read your story whenever you are ready to share it with us. Take care of yourself.
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Post by althea on Sept 10, 2017 18:48:27 GMT
I hope you are improving after the fall, May. I used to be a bit of a faller myself. I am trying to be careful now as I have Osteoporosis. I wear flat shoes and do things slowly. So far so good.
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