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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 10:41:57 GMT
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Post by ARENA on Aug 29, 2017 10:59:10 GMT
A media invention, including the 'stock' photograph.
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Post by anybody on Aug 29, 2017 11:10:24 GMT
One has to bear in mind that newspaper circulation is tumbling by thousands weekly and they are fighting tooth and nail to survive.The Independent was the first to go, the Express will be next,I assume.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 11:13:09 GMT
A media invention, including the 'stock' photograph. So you are saying this is 'fake news' and untrue?
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Post by ARENA on Aug 29, 2017 12:32:25 GMT
A media invention, including the 'stock' photograph. So you are saying this is 'fake news' and untrue? I am saying that,as an atheist, I would not encourage a child to believe in God. Now the press could have a field day twisting that innocuous fact. Surely you are aware of the endless amount of these catchpenny headlines there have been. I recall one where a school was being stopped from having nativity by the muslims. It was proved to be false. Boris Johnson had some people believing all sorts of fake news .... or did you miss that?
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Post by ARENA on Aug 29, 2017 13:00:53 GMT
So you are saying this is 'fake news' and untrue? I am saying that,as an atheist, I would not encourage a child to believe in God. Now the press could have a field day twisting that innocuous fact. Surely you are aware of the endless amount of these catchpenny headlines there have been. I recall one where a school was being stopped from having nativity by the muslims. It was proved to be false. Boris Johnson had some people believing all sorts of fake news .... or did you miss that? UPDATE: Birling Gap chemical haze . I have read and no doubt others have, that the poisonous gases causing harm on this beach in Sussex had drifted across from a factory in France. Like all news of this type use of the 'leetle grey cells' is all that is required. Could a gas cloud travel across the channel in tight formation and land on a beach in Britain only to disperse in less than an hour?
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Post by starlilolill on Aug 29, 2017 13:10:56 GMT
The rules state that a child should be placed with a family as close to the culture and ethnicity of the child. In this case one of the foster parents didn't speak English and allegeddly have been filling her head with nonsense about Western society.
The child should come first every time surely!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 13:18:27 GMT
The rules state that a child should be placed with a family as close to the culture and ethnicity of the child. In this case one of the foster parents didn't speak English and allegeddly have been filling her head with nonsense about Western society. The child should come first every time surely! Thank you Starlilolill. In my mind this 'media invention' has bugger all to do with religion but everything to do with culture. And Tower Hamlets council are guilty of gross mismanagement of the situation if nothing else. (Quite what this case has to do with a gas cloud in Sussex or the things Boris might or might not have been saying is none too clear to me)
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Post by ARENA on Aug 29, 2017 13:19:48 GMT
The rules state that a child should be placed with a family as close to the culture and ethnicity of the child. In this case one of the foster parents didn't speak English and allegeddly have been filling her head with nonsense about Western society. The child should come first every time surely! Could you produce verification of this,other than newspaper tattle?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 13:28:25 GMT
The rules state that a child should be placed with a family as close to the culture and ethnicity of the child. In this case one of the foster parents didn't speak English and allegeddly have been filling her head with nonsense about Western society. The child should come first every time surely! Could you produce verification of this,other than newspaper tattle? I don't quite know how that could be done, but I am assuming that since it was reported by just about every newspaper, whether they be right wing or left wing, and local MP's are questioning the decision there is a grain of truth in the story.
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Post by ARENA on Aug 29, 2017 13:39:06 GMT
Could you produce verification of this,other than newspaper tattle? I don't quite know how that could be done, but I am assuming that since it was reported by just about every newspaper, whether they be right wing or left wing, and local MP's are questioning the decision there is a grain of truth in the story. Have the press told you why the child was being fostered?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 13:46:56 GMT
I don't think they would be allowed to. Or do you have information on that? But does the reason the child is being fostered matter? Surely the important factor is where the child is being fostered, as Starlilolill pointed out.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 13:54:18 GMT
This was in The Guardian today, which I think makes disturbing reading. And how anyone can call it 'Media Invention' beggars belief. Perhaps you could explain that remark Arena?
Tuesday 29 August 2017 11.20 BST Last modified on Tuesday 29 August 2017 14.08 BST
The children’s rights watchdog is to investigate reports that a five-year-old Christian girl was left distressed after being placed in foster care in two Muslim households in east London.
The office of the children’s commissioner for England, Anne Longfield, confirmed it would be contacting Tower Hamlets council to find out why the decision was made. The child has reportedly been in the care of a Muslim family for the past six months.
The Times published an article on Monday after seeing confidential local authority reports, in which a social services supervisor describes the child sobbing and begging not to be returned to one foster carer because “they don’t speak English”.
The reports state that the supervisor heard the girl, who at times was “very distressed”, claiming that the foster carer removed her necklace, which had a Christian cross.
Longfield said: “I am concerned at these reports. A child’s religious, racial and cultural background should be taken into consideration when they are placed with foster carers.”
A spokesman for the children’s commissioner confirmed the office would be contacting Tower Hamlets to find out more about the case.
The Children Act 1989 requires a local authority to give consideration to “religious persuasion, racial origin and cultural and linguistic background” when making any decision about a child who is in care as a result of a court order.
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Read more MPs have expressed concern over the case, including Robert Halfon, the Conservative chairman of the Commons education committee, who said it would be equally concerning if a Muslim child who did not speak English were placed with a Christian foster carer whose family did not speak the child’s language.
The reports have been seized upon by far-right activists including the former English Defence League leader Tommy Robinson, as well as Britain First and the EDL.
Miqdaad Versi, the assistant secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain, who has secured dozens of national press corrections over reporting about Islam and Muslims, criticised the Times report in various tweets, calling it “appalling” and adding: “Demonisation of the foreigner (especially the Muslim foreigner) is the clear undercurrent in this entire piece. It is appalling.”
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Post by ARENA on Aug 29, 2017 13:55:20 GMT
I don't think they would be allowed to. Or do you have information on that? But does the reason the child is being fostered matter? Surely the important factor is where the child is being fostered, as Starlilolill pointed out. What are you trying to prove? We can only assume that before fostering,people are tested for suitability. Have this family fostered before? Is it true that they cannot speak English? Is the child a problem to home? How old is she?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 14:15:37 GMT
What are you trying to prove? Nothing, simply pointing out what appears to be a mind-blowingly PC idiotic decision.
We can only assume that before fostering,people are tested for suitability. One would hope so.
Have this family fostered before? I don't know. What difference would that make?
Is it true that they cannot speak English? That is one of the main reasons this case has been highlighted. Even if only one of them can speak English then it would stand to reason that the language they use within the home will be their native tongue and not English. So intelligible to the child.
Is the child a problem to home? She is five! A five year old is a problem?
How old is she? See above.
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